A review on the name of the planet (EW spoilers)

[SannaR]

Doesn't Lahabreha during his speeches in Prae use the word Planet or Star when he's calling Hydelean a parasite? I guess I wasn't confused by it since even before we hit HW the scions use planet and star when discussing why Ascians are so hard to kill. That and when we get told she took over the roll of the heart/will of the star I went Oh well I wonder what the name is then. Someone on here even questioned me what I meant. At the time I didn't have the energy to get into the whole well if she took over being the will of the star from Zodiark then obviously the planet can't be named that if she came after him and they both at one point didn't exist. So when we finally got the name I was like oh! okay. At least Etheris is better than the protagonist's name in XVI. Yes, I'm still very much Clive, really!?! Like Really? As the in game it makes sense for some people to know or understand and thus use it.

Not as funny as finding out that Bleep Blop or w/e they said actually is the name of the Omnicron's star in their tongue. Cause Omega says their home planet's name a few times while we're riding on Alpha's back. Just I don't think anyone thought that was anything else but like your typical machine noise/static type thing. At least to me it's funny.

[kaynide]

Doesn't Lahabreha during his speeches in Prae use the word Planet or Star when he's calling Hydelean a parasite? I guess I wasn't confused by it since even before we hit HW the scions use planet and star when discussing why Ascians are so hard to kill. That and when we get told she took over the roll of the heart/will of the star I went Oh well I wonder what the name is then. Someone on here even questioned me what I meant. At the time I didn't have the energy to get into the whole well if she took over being the will of the star from Zodiark then obviously the planet can't be named that if she came after him and they both at one point didn't exist. So when we finally got the name I was like oh! okay. At least Etheris is better than the protagonist's name in XVI. Yes, I'm still very much Clive, really!?! Like Really? As the in game it makes sense for some people to know or understand and thus use it.

Not as funny as finding out that Bleep Blop or w/e they said actually is the name of the Omnicron's star in their tongue. Cause Omega says their home planet's name a few times while we're riding on Alpha's back. Just I don't think anyone thought that was anything else but like your typical machine noise/static type thing. At least to me it's funny.

In line with all that, post EW, I thought… why wasn’t the name of the planet Hydaelyn..? Like, why would even Venat need a new name for herself once she assumed “primal form”? I had always thought she just assumed the name of the planet in the vein of “I am become Gaia”. And if she was to become the will of Ethyris itself, why not just call herself Ethyris?

I get Zodiark as it is an original creation where someone was put into it to be the heart..but Venat..?

….my thoughts are that the devs just wanted everything related to Hyd and Zod over and done with entirely.

[SannaR]

In line with all that, post EW, I thought… why wasn’t the name of the planet Hydaelyn..? Like, why would even Venat need a new name for herself once she assumed “primal form”? I had always thought she just assumed the name of the planet in the vein of “I am become Gaia”. And if she was to become the will of Ethyris itself, why not just call herself Ethyris?

I get Zodiark as it is an original creation where someone was put into it to be the heart..but Venat..?

….my thoughts are that the devs just wanted everything related to Hyd and Zod over and done with entirely.

To go along with what we told her I guess. How else do you keep your name in the minds of people while not wanting people to have to give prayers to you? We don't know how often people awoke to the echo during the time in-between the ramp ups to calamities where she if not at times Elidibus caused star showers type visions. I'm sure after some point in time after the sundering when the memories of the presundered world became murky the best guess as to what the name is world I guess would be those echo users. Depending on how quickly any information and memories of the presundered world deteriorated happened of course.

[Enkidoh]

We don't know how often people awoke to the echo during the time in-between the ramp ups to calamities where she if not at times Elidibus caused star showers type visions.

1.0 gave a hint that in the 'calm' periods during Astral Eras it seemed to be very uncommon people for people to be awoken to the Echo, with a sudden 'rush' of new Echo users appearing being a strong indication a Calamity was approaching - Minfilia even stated this during 1.0's main scenario, that "after years of naught but rumours the past several moons have seen the hill of reports (of those awoken to the Echo) on my desk grow into a veritable mountain," so in between Calamities it was probably more "someone might inadvertently awaken to the Echo occassionally" without any influence from Hydaelyn.

Hydaelyn almost definetely knew when a Calamity was going to occur because of the aetherial flow suddenly occurring from a Shard back to the Source going from a trickle to a torrent as the Ascians schemed in the background to "upset the apple cart" so to speak and prime the two for a Rejoining, so the above "mass awakening to the Echo" was usually accurate that things were about to go very, very bad indeed.

[Cleretic]

1.0 gave a hint that in the 'calm' periods during Astral Eras it seemed to be very uncommon people for people to be awoken to the Echo, with a sudden 'rush' of new Echo users appearing being a strong indication a Calamity was approaching - Minfilia even stated this during 1.0's main scenario, that "after years of naught but rumours the past several moons have seen the hill of reports (of those awoken to the Echo) on my desk grow into a veritable mountain," so in between Calamities it was probably more "someone might inadvertently awaken to the Echo occassionally" without any influence from Hydaelyn.

Hydaelyn almost definetely knew when a Calamity was going to occur because of the aetherial flow suddenly occurring from a Shard back to the Source going from a trickle to a torrent as the Ascians schemed in the background to "upset the apple cart" so to speak and prime the two for a Rejoining, so the above "mass awakening to the Echo" was usually accurate that things were about to go very, very bad indeed.

Although remember that 1.0-only content isn't exactly reliable information and is prone to be retconned whenever convenient or appropriate. We do know of Echo-havers completely disconnected from any Calamities chronologically; Tiuna in the First, Tenzen in the Four Lords questline, although neither of them were noted as such at the time.

My feeling is that it's not just that the Echo is rarer outside of turbulent times (although it might be, given what we know is needed to awaken it), but that it's also much less likely to be recorded and documented appropriately. Again, Tiuna and Tenzen were just thought to be an oracle and great warrior respectively, maybe people among the original Knights Twelve or something had the Echo and it's just that nobody thought to check?