6.1 job adjustments as announced

[Risvertasashi]

The thing I've noticed with healer changes is that it's almost always things that are entirely different to what the player base has been asking for. There might be one or two exceptions, but generally it's changes that we hadn't guessed and scratch our heads over.

Yeah. There's a fair bit of head scratching over on the JP side too.

No one can guess at SE's logic, or if there even is any logic over just throwing darts at a bingo board. Heh.

[elioaiko]

Asking for nerfs is fine. Even a good thing in the case of healers. Just make it clear that the reason is because the tool is too powerful/efficient in some manner that adding an appropriate counterweight on another healer will only make things worse overall. Macrocosmos and Panhaima absolutely qualify here. You can make a case for Earthly Star, Essential Dignity, and Pneuma individually too, though I don’t think that holds under appropriate scrutiny. Lilybell would qualify as well if WHM wasn’t playing catch-up in so many other aspects. Sage and Scholar’s overall shared baseline in Aetherflow/Addersgall actions does qualify, but you can justify bringing AST/WHM up to that standard purely from a QoL perspective.

You can make the case about Macrocosmos because it is OP. But Panhaima is 100% not broken. It's only shining feature is that it can soften damage across multiple ongoing damage via Tumults, Akh Morns, etc.. But if the fight doesn't have a multi-hit raidwide then it's weak by default.

I'd even say that SCH/SGE would be the standard if AST wasn't still a healing monster. WHM will never be a "good" teammate because they do nothing for the co-healer. They don't bring healing, damage or utility and that's simply the truth.

In order for WHM to heal without making the co-healer work harder, is use GCD healing which in turn lowers their damage. GCD healing that costs an arm and a leg to cast unless you have lilies. And using lilies is punishing because Misery is a DPS loss, lowering the damage for WHM again.

In an optimized environment, WHM is spamming Glare like everyone else is spamming their filler spell but unlike them, WHM doesn't have the oGCD healing output to match the other three.

And why is it that healers get nerfs? None of the DPS got nerfs yet SCH got punished for being too fast? You can nerf Macrocosmos fine but leave the other healers alone. They should 100% on making WHM better to play with rather than force the ceiling down on the other healers.

[Grimoire-M]

You can make the case about Macrocosmos because it is OP. But Panhaima is 100% not broken. It's only shining feature is that it can soften damage across multiple ongoing damage via Tumults, Akh Morns, etc.. But if the fight doesn't have a multi-hit raidwide then it's weak by default.

I'd even say that SCH/SGE would be the standard if AST wasn't still a healing monster. WHM will never be a "good" teammate because they do nothing for the co-healer. They don't bring healing, damage or utility and that's simply the truth.

In order for WHM to heal without making the co-healer work harder, is use GCD healing which in turn lowers their damage. GCD healing that costs an arm and a leg to cast unless you have lilies. And using lilies is punishing because Misery is a DPS loss, lowering the damage for WHM again.

In an optimized environment, WHM is spamming Glare like everyone else is spamming their filler spell but unlike them, WHM doesn't have the oGCD healing output to match the other three.

And why is it that healers get nerfs? None of the DPS got nerfs yet SCH got punished for being too fast? You can nerf Macrocosmos fine but leave the other healers alone. They should 100% on making WHM better to play with rather than force the ceiling down on the other healers.

I do not think Sage needs any nerf beyond Panhaima. I’m fine with every other aspect of their kit, including the fact they have Prognosis over Scholar at the absolute worst, and I don’t think Scholar needs stronger burst healing as it is. I would rather give White Mage Panhaima if it had to exist in any form at all. It wouldn’t correct their imbalance but it would fit the shortcomings of their kit better than Lilybell.

[Kolsykol]

First Expedient was considered a Meme Ability.

Then players realized it wasn't so bad.

Of course Se has to nerf it then. . . It's a 10% freaking damage reduction. C'mon. . .

Tbh I usually find it annoying because at least in PF ( yes I know PF ) SCH have a tendency to use it when it's completely unnecessary and it can cause you to overextend and/ or shock you because suddenly you're going max speed even tho you barely have to move at all.
Most of the time they seem to just pop it on cd for any mech that requires some movement.

[Mortex]

Tbh I usually find it annoying because at least in PF ( yes I know PF ) SCH have a tendency to use it when it's completely unnecessary and it can cause you to overextend and/ or shock you because suddenly you're going max speed even tho you barely have to move at all.
Most of the time they seem to just pop it on cd for any mech that requires some movement.

I even find it in coordinated raid setting nothing more then “nice too have”. I never had a fight this raid tier were I was like “wow without expedient sprint I would be toast”. It’s a ability we’re you effectively push your own sprint responsibility on the scholar player . Like for every mechanic were I would need it I had sprint up.