Quote Originally Posted by elioaiko View Post
AST can get with murder because of what they did to and still are doing to AST. Let's remember that they destroyed their time mage aspect, assimilated all the cards, all while having the roughest MP management up until 5.4 in ShB. Not to mention the disaster of was it's release and the 5.0 AST with a horrible 3min Divination CD and Sleeve forcing you to draw every card and playing them individually. And even now, AST is still a mess because they keep changing the cards and the system that it just doesn't feel like AST anymore. Macrocosmos might be broken but wanting to nerf AST is the wrong idea.

Bring every job up. Not down. The way they destoryed AST and SCH in ShB to match WHM. Let's please remember that the devs willing made SCH even clunkier with a ghosting fairy and a kit that lacked meaningful weave windows but has a ton of oGCDs to use.

They took AST's OG card effects away and made them "heal" less than WHM. The PFs deadass locked out AST and then SCH when they decided to fix AST's glaring issues.

Why can't they ever bring WHM up to speed? It'll never be OP with its current design, so why not let it be able to synergy with other healers and actual have skill to use? I said this before in ShB's but everyone who keeps saying WHM just "needs" some QoL changes and like the "turn off brain aspect" will be the reason why no healer will ever be unique or fun. Because to SE, it has to be on the same level as WHM which is rock bottom.

Why the devs keep obsessing with the "entry" level healer is beyond me. Conjurer is the beginner healer. WHM is endgame, if you don't know how to play it then clearly you don't know how to play video games in general since WHM from start to finish is mind-numbingly easy.

That being said, keep pushing for WHM rework and buffs. But do not ask for healer nerfs. Bringing down other jobs only creates drama and fan wars.

Some WHM purists can literally sit there and go on for days about how AST and SCH are broken and need to be brought down. I'm sick of the wars, we even have a whole new healer to even out competition but I guess that's not enough.
Asking for nerfs is fine. Even a good thing in the case of healers. Just make it clear that the reason is because the tool is too powerful/efficient in some manner that adding an appropriate counterweight on another healer will only make things worse overall. Macrocosmos and Panhaima absolutely qualify here. You can make a case for Earthly Star, Essential Dignity, and Pneuma individually too, though I don’t think that holds under appropriate scrutiny. Lilybell would qualify as well if WHM wasn’t playing catch-up in so many other aspects. Sage and Scholar’s overall shared baseline in Aetherflow/Addersgall actions does qualify, but you can justify bringing AST/WHM up to that standard purely from a QoL perspective.