Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]
Love it that non-healers really be trying to argue about how much responsibility rests on the shoulders of the healers in content that can be run without healers. If the game was actually that demanding of the healers, we probably wouldn't even be having this conversation.
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You either don't main/play a SGE at all, or you don't bother reading their tooltip (which I understand, it's a copy pasted SCH 90% after all). It's just a SCH with WHM's level of braindeadness and AST's lossless toolkits. They too succumb into mind numbing 1 button spam ad nauseam just like their healers siblings, and even moreso because they lose the most value by not casting their nuke.
It's not anymore complex than their siblings, at all.
Like others, and as a SGE main myself, I respectfully disagree. SGE is just about as braindead as WHM in that I spend 80% of my time spamming Dosis III and not really thinking about much else. The only bit of thought I need to put into playing SGE is mitigation planning, which is inconsequential is most content. In my static, my cohealer enjoys making mitigation spreadsheets, and we discuss any moves necessary. But it certainly doesn’t take any amount of real thinking.
The only complex healer that exists right now is AST, and that’s only if you dive into card optimization. If you just play your cards on cooldown however you want and don’t try to optimize them, AST is pretty simple. Just like the other three.
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As someone who's done every healer, and swaps for savage tiers. I'd say Sage is the "easiest" because the toolkit is almost perfect out of the box and doesn't require additional steps like placement, which adds to the simplicity. You have to place Sacred Soil but you don't for Sage, it's based on where you are it applies, and so the likelihood someone won't get mitigation is much less. Granted if you sit on stacks and don't use them properly, it's going to feel more work because you aren't using the resources it provides over time. A real 'just press buttons' job.
Like there isn't a single change Sage needs, doesn't struggle anywhere. If anything the game needs to keep up with Sage. Pneuma is revolutionary in that it's a huge HoT tick and not a straight heal, so the game can take a few seconds longer to update the party list UI because it's a tick.
*Looks at Havenchild's FFLogs and sees they have a purple parse for SCH*
Are we by the docks? Because something smells fishy. XD
Dear healers,
Let's go on strike until they give our job back ! ^^
Let's play another role until then.
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I wouldn’t say i there aren’t any changes sage needs. I’d enjoy it if toxikon got a change to where it was usable in more cases than just downtime and prepull.As someone who's done every healer, and swaps for savage tiers. I'd say Sage is the "easiest" because the toolkit is almost perfect out of the box and doesn't require additional steps like placement, which adds to the simplicity. You have to place Sacred Soil but you don't for Sage, it's based on where you are it applies, and so the likelihood someone won't get mitigation is much less. Granted if you sit on stacks and don't use them properly, it's going to feel more work because you aren't using the resources it provides over time. A real 'just press buttons' job.
Like there isn't a single change Sage needs, doesn't struggle anywhere. If anything the game needs to keep up with Sage. Pneuma is revolutionary in that it's a huge HoT tick and not a straight heal, so the game can take a few seconds longer to update the party list UI because it's a tick.
I have no desire for another role so I must prepare my keyboard for another expansion of Glareificoilosis.
Plus the wait would be too long anyway, let's not forget how long it took for us to get a 4th healer in the roster.
The funny part is when SE marketed Sage as the „DPS“-Healer. which got everyone excited!What
You either don't main/play a SGE at all, or you don't bother reading their tooltip (which I understand, it's a copy pasted SCH 90% after all). It's just a SCH with WHM's level of braindeadness and AST's lossless toolkits. They too succumb into mind numbing 1 button spam ad nauseam just like their healers siblings, and even moreso because they lose the most value by not casting their nuke.
It's not anymore complex than their siblings, at all.I wasn‘t expecting too much, but I still was disappointed.
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