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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    ...People don't seem to understand that the whole point of the job system is that you gain more power in a way that's specific to your job and class, but you lose some of the cross-classing flexibility.

    If you absolutely must have Cure when you're on THM, then you simply do not set black mage and play THM as you always have. You trade greater power for greater flexibility.
    I really want to point something out, regarding that last statement of yours (the bolded line):

    That's the whole point of a main class/job in the first place...Your MAIN class/job is supposed to be SUBSTANTIALLY better at IT'S* role than any another class/job is at that role. There shouldn't be a need to COMPLETELY restrict jobs if the main class/job counterpart is properly balanced.

    The reason XI failed, in that regard, was because ppl could simply sub a particular job, and act as a replacement for a role that it wasn't intended to replace. For example:

    Summoner/White Mage = replacement healer for whm

    Ninja/Warrior = replacement tank for pld



    A BLM capable of curing did not cause a problem for a WHM, in XI, thanks to the sub job system restrictions -we were only granted access to "actions" available to our sub job at it's current "restricted" level (half the level of your main class).

    The answer to the problem in XIV shouldn't be "screw all other mages out of a cure, to keep white mage relevant." We should be asking for adjustments to the class/job system... Find ways, like the sub job system, to keep jobs like blm from ever having a way to compete with whm for main healer. The Armoury System is the problem here. It's too hard to balance with it's current design.

    Anyway, my point is....the recent update to the Armoury System wasn't good enough. They need to implement some sort of Armoury/Sub-job System hybrid.
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  2. #42
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    AreeyaJaidee's Avatar
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    Mewt Naeun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khal_Drogo View Post
    Hypocritical much?

    Let me refresh your memory:



    You called the OP a ridiculous, jealous, unjust newb...

    You're the one who started the petty character insults. Stay on topic from now on, and contribute to the discussion in a positive way; and if at all possible, try not to be such a <insert insult here> about it.
    I see your boyfriend called you to fight his wars for him. That's pretty endearing.

    Either way, you two continue to attempt rationalization of your Dr. Phil intervention against me for calling the ridiculous exactly what it is.

    I know entropy when i see it. To rationalize further isn't worth the annoyance of watching the failure of your logic persist.

    Have fun in Eorzea.

    Give your hubby a kiss to celebrate your false sense of forum justice lol :3
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khal_Drogo View Post
    Ninja/Warrior = replacement tank for pld
    You really didn't play FFXI much (if at all), did you? Otherwise you would know why NIN/WAR was a good tank.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khal_Drogo View Post
    You called the OP a ridiculous, jealous, unjust newb...

    You're the one who started the petty character insults. Stay on topic from now on, and contribute to the discussion in a positive way; and if at all possible, try not to be such a <insert insult here> about it.
    No, I am sorry, but I am with AreeyaJaidee on this one. This player has just as much right to display his anger with posters suggesting his characters get whiped, as the OP did to suggest it. It aggitates me as well to see someone mention that. any time someone with limited time displayed, such as having just one 50, suggest everyone else take a server wipe, the likelyhood of jelousy is a good one.

    Lately, every Tom, Dick, and Harry has decided to make there own "special" thread with an long OP detailing to the public how they suggest the game should be. There are literally thread upon thread of posters making a thread just for there opinion. Every single one of these could of posted there full opinion on any of the other threads, but no, they all want to make there own. Then go on to act absolutely shocked when someone disagrees with them, either hatefully or politely. BUT, when you go one suggesting other players hard work be wiped for the sake of your vision, you will get angry backlash, and fully deserve it. So lets give up all this shock and awe about someone being offended by the suggestion. Its absolutely with in there right to be angered by that and the lashing out is expected.
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  5. #45
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    wiping characters is the best way to force the people that have been playing and supporting this game for 2 years(at 2.0 release) to never return to the game. it's also a great way to make sure i would never purchase another game made by square again.
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  6. #46
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    Erika Indira
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    Pugilist Lv 75
    5 materia = lv99 crafter im guessing, we just have the NOOB level cap till they start raising it. just like we can use all 30 hot bar slots.
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  7. #47
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    Konstantine Porphyrogenitos
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    I would love a wipe due to the chaos that would ensue. It would be absolutely divine to watch.

    Realistically its not possible or even feasible but by the gods if they did do that the 'lulz' would be epic.

    Yes I am sadistically evil.
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  8. #48
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    Add level sync to be able to xp with friends/others!

  9. #49
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    Severa Cordelia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsleuer View Post
    really so the fact that you before patch 1.18 i believe you could have a crafting job in your party and leach xp does no one remember seeing that. i just thought it was silly you can take a carpenter in a party and gain xp from lvling in a party.
    Let me say this *not trying to sound mean* anyways you never EVER got exp for your DoH/L class. Why do I know this? Because I tried to do the PL trick for a DoH/L class for friends and not once have they ever got any exp.

    "i believe you could have a crafting job in your party and leach xp does no one remember seeing that"
    You believe is what you believe not everyone
    No one remembers getting exp from getting their DoL/H class PLed is because it NEVER happened
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    Last edited by Gao; 03-13-2012 at 05:51 PM.

  10. #50
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    It was never possible to gain exp from kills on a DoH/DoL. I've even taken the eternity it takes to kill an enemy with stone throw and you get no EXP.
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