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  1. #31
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    AreeyaJaidee's Avatar
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    Mewt Naeun
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsleuer View Post
    First no where in my post did i say im petitioning to have them kill the servers its only a suggestion and to say

    "I don't respect anyone who considers petitioning for my hard earned achievements and lvls to be just simply erased. Those are hours and days of my life i can never get back simply because some newb was jealous that some of us actually gave this fail game a chance and persevered in the face of adversity."

    is a little silly because im not jelous its super easy to get all class to 50 except (DoL and DoH better with rested xp) and remember people its only a thought so many people are against it, it will never happen.
    Why would you suggest such ppls lvls get wiped?

    It doesn't matter if its "easy" to you. That's not your right to suggest the destruction of someone elses time investments because it's "your opinion".

    I have no Real animosity to anyone here, but a line has to be drawn when the absurdity reaches into the realm of complete disrespect to others accomplishments.

    There's No valid reason to even suggest such a thing or try to plant the idea in ppls minds.

    That's my point. You guys can Keep trying to pass it off as a "harmless" suggestion", but even basis upon which the suggestion is founded proves it is anything but.
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  2. #32
    Player Wolfie's Avatar
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    Wolfie Wu
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsleuer View Post
    when i hit the button it doesnt work says not ready almost the timer isnt working, im looking for more of a drain i thinkg puglist more of a mnk thf is all.
    That sounds more like lag and technical issues on your end, not that the skill isn't working.
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  3. #33
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    That sounds more like lag and technical issues on your end, not that the skill isn't working.
    Or it is the fearsome cooldown timer bug. Relog help most times.
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  4. #34
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    myoozek's Avatar
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    Ava Dracarys
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    Midgardsormr
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    Ninja Lv 55
    I think there is valid concern by the OP. Hold on, Areeya, let me finish.

    I am 12 levels from having all DoW jobs at 50, take this into account! Although it is unfair to wipe away the countless hours I've dumped into my character (and, mind you, I'm not especially keen on being PL'd, which is why I haven't already hit 50 on all jobs; I like to play the job and know familiarize myself with each action's strengths and weaknesses, timing, recast, effectiveness, etc), what I believe the OP is alluding to as a looming threat to the future success of this game, which, unfortunately, is multi-dimensional.

    The first dimension I can think of, arguably the most important one, is retaining player loyalty. This rings especially true for this game, which has been a train-wreck in perpetual salvage-mode since its release.

    The second dimension I can think of is, what I believe the OP to have considered, is the 'new' player. As a linkshell leader, this is something that I have had looming in my thoughts for quite some time. Most of my linkshell mates are well above 50% in all jobs, a handful quite near 100%. Leveling my last job, MRD, (currently @ 38) has proven to be quite the lonesome road; no one is L38 these days. If they are, they zoom past in a weekend's time with PL assistance. I've refrained from that, in hopes of experiencing the thrill of actually leveling the way the game is intended. My concern is that with so many players near 100%, there will be less incentive on new players to level appropriately, instead opting to be PL'd as fast as possible to 'run with the big boys.'

    Again - I completely disagree of simply resetting everyone's job back to L1 is not a viable solution, however, the OP brings a valid concern in my book. I personally am very curious as to how SE can manage to pacify players like ourselves, Areeya, who've spent the blood and tears into getting to where we're at, while still creating a social dynamic that allows new players to interact with veteran players. I feel if this isn't address correctly, it could very well spell demise for the game.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    they want to be able to cast it on others is why
    You dont get it to cast it on others, you use it to save your own skin.

    When you set black mage, you're focusing on black magic. That's why you don't get to set cure. The secondary classes required to unlock the job and the only classes you can thus set actions from seem to be primarily based on relevant stats- Pugilist is on there because they have a use for intelligence, for instance.

    Both of those classes have some useful survival tools that can help a black mage when he pulls hate.

    People don't seem to understand that the whole point of the job system is that you gain more power in a way that's specific to your job and class, but you lose some of the cross-classing flexibility.

    If you absolutely must have Cure when you're on THM, then you ismply do not set black mage and play THM as you always have. You trade greater power for greater flexibility.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 03-13-2012 at 09:53 AM.

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsleuer View Post
    really so the fact that you before patch 1.18 i believe you could have a crafting job in your party and leach xp does no one remember seeing that. i just thought it was silly you can take a carpenter in a party and gain xp from lvling in a party.
    you could gain exp for phsyical level yes

    but come on now, seriously, how useful were those?

    now if you could get carpentry exp it woulda been another story

  7. #37
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    KaozMarquis's Avatar
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    Lunairetic Marquis
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    If I remember correctly, cuz I did it for a friend, you would gain physical level experience, not points towards your job which does not even apply anymore. Other than that, I too am curious as to this PL you speak of.
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  8. #38
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    Adell Raynes
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I personally HATE how often people cling to the holy trinity/quartet in mmos. Sure it works, but it gets old. Le olde. Some games have done it well, but I would never want this to go that route.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    Nahh. Don't attempt to berate my personal character because you believe im being over dramatic, which is also "just your opinion".

    I do get out of my house: I am a 0431 MOS trained United States Marine. Being as how my occupational specialty is logistics and embarkation I have traveled various places across the globe in support of defending the freedom of ppl who do and do not care whether i do or not.

    "...witch hunt...", really? The guy created a thread proposing SE wipe ppls characters, and you jump my case? His request/opinion is detrimental to my own.

    So he can post a detrimental suggestion based on his own personal beliefs, yet i cant oppose his opinion because of my beliefs?

    This is about your personal interpretation of my words, which no one else had a problem with but 4 ppl liked my post. I wasn't being disrespectful, neither are you a mediator on these forums.

    Sounds like its your opinion that's the issue here not mine. So in your own words, relax DUDE.
    Hypocritical much?

    Let me refresh your memory:

    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    Even asking to take that away is beyond ridiculous.

    The sheer sufferance and invested time/exp/gil/achievements we poured into this game alone is numerically greater than the number of days you have been alive much less the tiny amount of consideration you put into your OP.

    Not at all possible i would support any such thing. Theres no justification other than jealousy. No matter which way you spin your opinion, it is horribly flawed and inappropriate.
    You called the OP a ridiculous, jealous, unjust newb...

    You're the one who started the petty character insults. Stay on topic from now on, and contribute to the discussion in a positive way; and if at all possible, try not to be such a <insert insult here> about it.
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  10. #40
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    Aion Zwei
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 54
    Quote Originally Posted by Khal_Drogo View Post
    Hypocritical much?

    Let me refresh your memory:



    You called the OP a ridiculous, jealous, unjust newb...

    You're the one who started the petty character insults. Stay on topic from now on, and contribute to the discussion in a positive way; and if at all possible, try not to be such a <insert insult here> about it.
    taking away level from current player is ridicolous, I agree with that. Also Areeya post didnt like insult for me, just an heavy disagreement. I dont get any insult tone in that.
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