What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[kpxmanifesto]

You were wrong, because as I stated (and was later proven), the writers did indeed put the exact themes I said they did into the game. Again, just because they did the themes BADLY does not mean the themes were not there. There's nothing to speculate on. The attempt to make the story morally grey was made, as I said it was, and they failed to do it properly, just like I said they did.

Lol, no you're misinterpreting what I'm saying. "IMO, I don't think the writers were anywhere near the level of elaboration as you make it out to be. We can speculate about whether the writers truly sought to address things like morality, paradise, despair, etc." Did you really interpret that as me saying that those themes were completely absent from the game? I'm just saying that they're not anywhere near the level of elaboration as you make it out to be. I even gave you some credit when I entertained your non-sequitur by saying: "Sure, it could've been an effort to paint the ancients as morally grey, and "I mean, sure, it's definitely a possibility." There are certain things that I don't agree are morally grey like the ancients choice of returning to the star and their experimentation on living creatures, but that's not me saying that moral greyness is completely absent from this game. Venat performing the sundering is a moral grey area for me.

For some reason you took my skepticism about moral greyness regarding certain parts of the game as me saying that there isn't ANY moral greyness in this game.

This entire argument is simply because you were seemed to believe that just because themes are bad then that makes them not elaborate.

You mean it's because I believe that they weren't well elaborated on. Like I said: I don't think the writers were anywhere near the level of elaboration as you make it out to be. Whether the theme is "bad" or not makes no difference to me. You might feel that some themes are apparent in some areas, but I disagree.