Results 1 to 10 of 138

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    DeNada's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Posts
    249
    Character
    Hadrefort Sarmantoix
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 53
    Even if lottery is lower odds in the end, at least I get to spend my time playing the game while having a chance at the house instead of 'playing' placard clicker for hours on end with no assurance of ever winning against the dozens of housing bots out there, not to mention risking injuries due to repetitive stress motions.

    So no thanks, FCFS should just be relegated to the consigns of history and no one should ever speak of it again.
    (5)

  2. #2
    Player
    Divinemights's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    2,143
    Character
    Altria Pendragons
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DeNada View Post
    Even if lottery is lower odds in the end, at least I get to spend my time playing the game while having a chance at the house instead of 'playing' placard clicker for hours on end with no assurance of ever winning against the dozens of housing bots out there, not to mention risking injuries due to repetitive stress motions.

    So no thanks, FCFS should just be relegated to the consigns of history and no one should ever speak of it again.
    Dust is settled, you got what you want that.
    It is amused to see Balmung people saying this since their odd is worst among all servers
    (1)

  3. #3
    Player
    Jojoya's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Posts
    9,091
    Character
    Jojoya Joya
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DeNada View Post
    Even if lottery is lower odds in the end, at least I get to spend my time playing the game while having a chance at the house instead of 'playing' placard clicker for hours on end with no assurance of ever winning against the dozens of housing bots out there, not to mention risking injuries due to repetitive stress motions.

    So no thanks, FCFS should just be relegated to the consigns of history and no one should ever speak of it again.
    If you're worried about repetitive motion injuries, why are you playing a MMO? Pressing buttons for a placard is no more stressful than pressing buttons for combat or pressing buttons to chat. We're always pressing buttons while we're playing. Placard camping is just a more boring choice of activity. If you're thinking about the length of time you spend doing it, nothing is stopping you from taking a break.

    Some players will defintiely continue to speak about FCFS because they will remember the time they could just walk up to a placard to buy a house, no hassle other than being in the right place at the right time.

    Patch 4.2 had been a great time for house buyers (unless they were playing on Balmung). It took a few months for all those new plots to get purchased (player base was about a third of the size it is now but we got the same number of new plots that Empyreum will be adding). Some worlds still had available plots all the way into the start of 2019. No placard camping in most cases. No waiting on a lottery period to end and results to be posted on the placard to see if your entry is going to be picked over 500+ other entries. Why would players not continue to talk about those days?

    Speaking of results, willing to bet that's going to end up another common complaint. "Why do I have to go back to the plot to find out if I won? Can't you just send me an in-game mail? It's going to be so disheartening to make the trip all the way to the plot just to see another player's name listed and know I'll have to wait until the next lottery period starts before I can try again".

    Another possible complaint: "I can't remember what plot I entered for! How do I find out so I can see if I won?" Hopefully SE has either thought to add lottery entries with plot numbers to Estate Timers or will be able to do so because I can definitely see some players forgetting the ward and plot number.
    (1)

  4. #4
    Player
    Shibi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    2,756
    Character
    Lala Felon
    World
    Zurvan
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    ... "I can't remember what plot I entered for! How do I find out so I can see if I won?"...
    I too hope the estate timer panel might get a piece of paper on the right with the entry details. There will be a lot of salt from people if not.

    But yeah, shifting the game towards people who don't really care about housing but enter anyway, it will be just like grand cactpot and people will forget they even had an entry until the day after it closes. Even I've done that one, heading to claim the reward to see "sorry, this ticket is no longer valid".
    (0)
    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  5. #5
    Player
    HyperiusUltima's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Posts
    1,423
    Character
    Eileen White
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    If you're worried about repetitive motion injuries, why are you playing a MMO? Pressing buttons for a placard is no more stressful than pressing buttons for combat or pressing buttons to chat. We're always pressing buttons while we're playing. Placard camping is just a more boring choice of activity. If you're thinking about the length of time you spend doing it, nothing is stopping you from taking a break.
    While I'll agree about pressing buttons and taking regular breaks(which we all should considering how long people can be at the computer at a given time of day or night), I think one of the things he's getting at is not just the motion injuries, but rather the question of "Does this count as proper gameplay?" The answer to that is no, because it isn't engaging and only results as an egregious system that is particularly bad in regards to Housing as a whole. That's why they came up with the lottery system in the first place so that Housing isn't as harshly gated behind the servers trying to take your input(which gets clogged up with all the placard macro clickers using third party software for this alone, bots included) so you can obtain the plot. We've seen it plenty enough that when hundreds of people are trying to get into a particular instance at the same time(i.e. Raubahn EX and Pipin Savage from the days of Stormblood Launch) that it makes it difficult for the server to accept, akin to a Denial of Service attack.

    If people want their house, then they can either wait for it or during current days for FCFS simply play Placard Clicker Simulator for hours on end.
    (2)

  6. #6
    Player
    LunaFancy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    73
    Character
    P'ahkti Coeurleone
    World
    Zurvan
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Hopefully SE has either thought to add lottery entries with plot numbers to Estate Timers or will be able to do so because I can definitely see some players forgetting the ward and plot number.
    I love your optimism almost as much as I am certain it is unfounded lol!

    You're bang on about 4.2 being the golden days of housing though, those were truly the good old days, fondly remembered and never to be revisited it seems.

    The only good thing that will come out of this lottery system is the entertainment the forums and reddit will provide in the wake of its implementation.

    See you all at the popcorn vendor in a couple of weeks!
    (1)

  7. #7
    Player
    Jojoya's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Posts
    9,091
    Character
    Jojoya Joya
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFancy View Post
    I love your optimism almost as much as I am certain it is unfounded lol!

    You're bang on about 4.2 being the golden days of housing though, those were truly the good old days, fondly remembered and never to be revisited it seems.

    The only good thing that will come out of this lottery system is the entertainment the forums and reddit will provide in the wake of its implementation.

    See you all at the popcorn vendor in a couple of weeks!
    Except they did it! They posted a screenshot of the lottery information shown on the Estate Timers in the news post.

    I have no doubt there will be plenty of complaints once Empyreum sells out and the newness of the system wears off. Still, most players will be better off than they are under the current system even if serious flaws remain.
    (1)

  8. #8
    Player
    Shibi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    2,756
    Character
    Lala Felon
    World
    Zurvan
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I have no doubt there will be plenty of complaints once Empyreum sells out and the newness of the system wears off.
    During the EW release people had "fun" posting the biggest queue length they hit.

    The new forum meta will be who can post the biggest entry count:

    (1)
    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  9. #9
    Player
    Jojoya's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Posts
    9,091
    Character
    Jojoya Joya
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    During the EW release people had "fun" posting the biggest queue length they hit.

    The new forum meta will be who can post the biggest entry count:

    Looks like they did their testing on Balmung.
    (1)

Tags for this Thread