Looking back at this Yoshi P statement(story spoilers)

[MikkoAkure]

Apparently Ishikawa's initial draft for the story was pressed to be changed, i wonder why hm?

Ishikawa said she had to rewrite the first draft because it didn't put the pieces of the plot together in a compelling fashion. I don't think that's the smoking gun you're looking for.

How do you mean there wasnt any bringing him back? They brought the scions back from essentially death lol. Please. I mean, they could have killed off Graha, idc, but i do find it interesting you keep obsessing over death when ive said countless times it didnt even have to be death, it could be some other form of consequence like actual injuries or scars.

After a whole expansion where he's the antagonist, and then his long, drawn out epic death cutscene followed by an emotional scene with him saying "remember us", it would have been a bigger fake-out death than anything the Scions ever had if Emet just randomly showed up alive just because he's popular. His popularity already led to his return in Elpis and his narration of EW and that was already more than expected.

I'm not sure how getting a scar equals consequences. Either way, it was very obvious retroactively that they wanted all of the main characters together for the climax of EW at Ultima Thule and considering that entire zone involves 0 fight scenes, there was nothing going to happen during that. I'm not sure what they could have done through all of previous EW stuff to give them an injury that gives consequences and still have them show up for the climax that wouldn't be treading ground they've already done. They already had Y'shtola get sliced up and require immediate healing magic which cancelled out any consequence from her injuries except "Zenos bad and dangerous" and make it so the writers don't have to deal with Y'shtola for the rest of the expansion.

Like I said, Zenos slashing another Scion who would just end up getting healed so they can show up at the end wouldn't have added much since it's already been done before. Zenos in WoL's body shooting a Scion would certainly be shocking, but these forums already went crazy over the fact that WoL was being controlled at all and for something like that to happen wouldn't have gone down very well. Jullus injuring a Scion would sour fan's disposition towards him and it's obvious they plan to bring him back for more. A random Terminus creature injuring someone wouldn't have the same impact as a named character doing the same. And there's no way they'd have a Lopporit actually injure someone badly. That's pretty much it for points where I could've seen something happening.

But there's still moments that show us how much is at stake and show us where we failed. Everything that's happening is because our WoL exists and Zenos wants to cause bad things to happen so that we will get angry and fight him again like we did that one day on top of Ala Mhigo. So everything is already indirectly our fault. And then we kill Zodiark which makes it worse and leads to a leader getting eaten and a child being stomped on, which is one of the hardest scenes to watch in the whole game. The Garleans don't trust us and due to their propaganda would rather die out in the cold with the monsters and that's exactly what happens and we fail to foresee it or prevent it. The Twins' failure to convince their father that they're competent and know what they're doing leads to Sharlayan not lifting a finger for us until the very end.

[kpxmanifesto]

After a whole expansion where he's the antagonist, and then his long, drawn out epic death cutscene followed by an emotional scene with him saying "remember us", it would have been a bigger fake-out death than anything the Scions ever had if Emet just randomly showed up alive just because he's popular. His popularity already led to his return in Elpis and his narration of EW and that was already more than expected.

Honestly, the writers are so inclined to bring back popular characters that I wouldn't have been surprised if Emet somehow came back alive. Technically he did come back when he was summoned on UT if only for a brief moment. That's the power of being a fan favorite.

[Tehmon]

Does anyone actually think Emet and Hyth won't be coming back during the next saga one way or another? Please, they are way too big to discard. I'll be surprised if the writers manage to keep themselves from even referencing them in any way whatsoever in the expansions to come.

[kpxmanifesto]

Does anyone actually think Emet and Hyth won't be coming back during the next saga one way or another? Please, they are way too big to discard. I'll be surprised if the writers manage to keep themselves from even referencing them in any way whatsoever in the expansions to come.

Yeah, man I don't think so. Both characters are incredibly unpopular and SE has never had a history of pandering to its audience, so there's approximately a 0% chance of them ever making a return.

I can't even type this out with a straight face. Of course we'll see them again in the future. Lmao.

[Skyborne]

Does anyone actually think Emet and Hyth won't be coming back during the next saga one way or another? Please, they are way too big to discard. I'll be surprised if the writers manage to keep themselves from even referencing them in any way whatsoever in the expansions to come.

As much as I like them, it'd feel rather disappointing to me along the lines of the Thancred and Shtola stuff in ShB. I'd like to think the Lord of the Underworld and his friend are busy tidying up the big influx of souls in the Lifestream while waiting for us to join them in their 'well-deserved rest' after 12k years. Now, if some of the neglected sundered Ascians showed up...

[TaleraRistain]

Does anyone actually think Emet and Hyth won't be coming back during the next saga one way or another? Please, they are way too big to discard. I'll be surprised if the writers manage to keep themselves from even referencing them in any way whatsoever in the expansions to come.

References, Echo flashbacks of some sort, or possibly even further time travel are all possible. I think it was Hyth that mentioned the curtain rising with players in new roles as well. But I would hope they've earned a bit of a rest after 12k years.

The issue with the Scions is that with minor exceptions they incur nothing in the way of cost while the opposition is obliterated. Gaius and Fordola are the only antagonists I know of that have survived opposing the WoL.

Lahabrea, Yotsuyu, and Zenos survived encounters with us. We didn't have a hand in Lahabrea's eventual end. He was sucked into the Eye in Thordan's sword.

[KizuyaKatogami]

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The fact you think Emet, the unsundered ancient who's major skill revolved around the underworld and its workings, coming back after being "killed" is more of a fake-out death than the combination of the UT fake out deaths just tells me everything i need to know lmao.