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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Generally if someone proposes to agree to disagree on something then it's typically a sign that they're not terribly interested in engaging in a long winded back and forth discussion. I rather suspect that's doubly the case when the exact same discussion has played out across a great many threads already.

    In other words, just because someone posts something that doesn't mean they're obligated to respond to any and every question thrown their way. Especially if they're worded as leading questions.
    It is very true that no one is obligated to respond.

    However they did, and insisted that I was wrong in my response. I asked for an explanation for why that is and never received one.

    If you’re not interested in addressing the point, then don’t answer at all. And you especially don’t pretend you have offered a rebuttal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    It is very true that no one is obligated to respond.

    However they did, and insisted that I was wrong in my response. I asked for an explanation for why that is and never received one.

    If you’re not interested in addressing the point, then don’t answer at all. And you especially don’t pretend you have offered a rebuttal.
    It’s okay to be wrong, not everyone is right 100% of the time, and things can be misinterpreted through text, so i don’t blame anyone for maybe reading things differently than what was meant. No harm done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    It’s okay to be wrong, not everyone is right 100% of the time, and things can be misinterpreted through text, so i don’t blame anyone for maybe reading things differently than what was meant. No harm done.
    Ah, more deflections. Anything to avoid actually answering the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    Ah, more deflections. Anything to avoid actually answering the question.
    I already answered it, at least what was relevant to this thread. If you have other questions feel free to make your own thread to ask them. Again, i’d rather not derail this thread with unrelated things. I’d rather we talk about the topic at hand and not stray from it. Thank you for understanding though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I already answered it, at least what was relevant to this thread. If you have other questions feel free to make your own thread to ask them. Again, i’d rather not derail this thread with unrelated things. I’d rather we talk about the topic at hand and not stray from it. Thank you for understanding though.
    Yep I completely understand. If I question a premise intrinsic to the thread I get:



    That’s fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    Yep I completely understand. If I question a premise intrinsic to the thread I get:



    That’s fine

    Again, i already answered your question how i saw fit. If it wasnt sufficient for you im sorry, but at this point you arent really contributing much to the thread, just snark and meme pics. Its not a good look.Im not going to conform to your ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Again, i already answered your question how i saw fit. If it wasnt sufficient for you im sorry, but at this point you arent really contributing much to the thread, just snark and meme pics. Its not a good look.Im not going to conform to your ideas.
    It's really amusing when you consider that person was going around tone-policing people in another thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    God are people incapable of making arguments without being elitist or condescending. You don’t need to be a jerk to breath friend.
    Projection much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    It's really amusing when you consider that person was going around tone-policing people in another thread.



    Projection much?
    I posted a few images of characters that died during the story, in direct response to a claim Kizuya made. He then claimed I was derailing the thread and basically just said “lmao.”

    If someone’s being condescending I’m going to answer exactly the same way. But by all means insist that I’m a hypocrite for having an issue with unprovoked hostility and elitism. That’s all these conversations have turned into.

    He still hasn’t answered the question btw

    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    How would you describe a death then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    I posted a few images of characters that died during the story, in direct response to a claim Kizuya made. He then claimed I was derailing the thread and basically just said “lmao.”

    If someone’s being condescending I’m going to answer exactly the same way. But by all means insist that I’m a hypocrite for having an issue with unprovoked hostility and elitism. That’s all these conversations have turned into.

    He still hasn’t answered the question btw
    I feel like at this point you’re purposely derailing the thread purely because you disagree with me. I answered the question in the way i felt was the best way. You’re dissatisfied with that and breathing down my neck begging for answers. You can’t just leave well enough alone and continue to be condescending and snarky. I’ve tried to be nice, and leave the situation in a neutral stance to let’s agree to disagree and that still wasn’t enough for you. At this point you’re being as bad what you claimed in the past all these others posters are, being condescending, not letting things go, and derailing the conversation. If for whatever reason you don’t feel your question was answered in a way you wanted it to be, then you’re free to disagree and leave. There’s no reason to continue hounding someone over it. It’s making me uncomfortable tbqh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I feel like at this point you’re purposely derailing the thread purely because you disagree with me. I answered the question in the way i felt was the best way. You’re dissatisfied with that and breathing down my neck begging for answers. You can’t just leave well enough alone and continue to be condescending and snarky. I’ve tried to be nice, and leave the situation in a neutral stance to let’s agree to disagree and that still wasn’t enough for you. At this point you’re being as bad what you claimed in the past all these others posters are, being condescending, not letting things go, and derailing the conversation. If for whatever reason you don’t feel your question was answered in a way you wanted it to be, then you’re free to disagree and leave. There’s no reason to continue hounding someone over it. It’s making me uncomfortable tbqh.
    Look, I just asked to give me what counts as a death in your eyes. Nothing more. You posted a thread talking about a statement Yoshi P made about character deaths and said that in the past 3 expansions no one has died, I asked you to explain to me what meets the criteria for a death in your view and what doesn’t.

    If we can’t tell who has or hasn’t died in your opinion then we can’t really discuss whether what you think is a problem is actually one or not. If you’re uncomfortable, then I apologize but I do think this an important thing to ask in the context of what you wanted to discuss.

    And let’s be clear repeatedly calling me an “amateur lore enthusiast,” an insult you stole from Lauront in an older thread we had a discussion in, as well as repeatedly accusing me of derailing, doesn’t exactly engender good faith discussion or make me feel very comfortable mind you.
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