Please consider scaling back the "time-gating" on some older content

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

• Nothing seems to matter anymore. Why invest time in any of the content when you know that in six months it's going to be handed to you for free?
• You're going to feel like a real idiot for having spent months doing turn-ins for your Doman Enclave back in the day when it's now available to you in a matter of hours.
• New players will burn through all the old content the game has to offer in a matter of weeks. There isn't enough current content to keep anyone engaged (by design), so there will be a giant drop in subs.

1) This is already the reality of any content in the game, it becomes easier over time. Mount farms? just wait till end of the expansion, or wait till next expansion for unsync. Same for raids. Same for most glamours, minions, mounts being shoved into next expansion's lockboxes. Same with moogle tome events having a ton of rare rewards in them. Relic steps become easier. Yet even knowing that stuff will become easier over time, the majority still farm stuff in the here and now. Why? because its content to do in the present, and because they can enjoy the reward far, far earlier than those who wait. That's the point of FF14's content design. Things always become easier if you're willing to wait potentially years, it's the tradeoff between how much you desire a reward and how much you're willing to wait. This Modus Operandi has been around since ARR, and it hasn't 'destroyed the game' in the slightest.

2) Whether you could do it in one afternoon or across 14 weeks, it's the exact same amount of work for the Doman Enclave, how would it make anyone feel like an idiot? The quests haven't changed, you'll still be reading/mashing through the exact same amount of message boxes as anyone else, talking to the same number of NPCs as anyone else, etc. In fact, it's arguably more work if you could do it in a single afternoon since you'd have to go through the effort of buying/making/etc all the items needed to fund the Doman Enclave's box in a single day, rather than just passively picking up items while waiting week to week. There's also just the point above that I got to enjoy the doman enclave's rewards for literally 4-5ish years now ahead of anyone starting now, even if they made it doable in a single afternoon. That's already a titanic positive and far from idiocy.

3) You honestly think that the weekly stuff that takes like 10-20mins to do and then you have to wait an entire week to continue is keeping people subbed? Most of the old time-gated content is stuff you can finish all of it under and hour or two a week. After that, what's keeping that player engaged for the remaining 166 hours of the week? I can guarantee you, that old timegated content isn't keeping people subbed if they weren't engaged. They'd just continue it when their sub is next running, not paying $15 a month to spend 2 hours a week on the game doing old time gated things.

Not to mention, half of the old time-gated content is irrelevant anyway - the mounts from the ARR beast tribes can be bought from any single moogle trove event in 1/100th of the time it takes to rank up them normally, making the time gate on ARR beast tribes even further pointless.

There's a time and place for time gating content - when its current, on things that could possibly generate infinite amounts of gil for little effort like leves, etc. Old content that's already been so extremely nerfed and/or had its rewards already chucked into other parts of the game isn't it.

[hagare]

I wasn't responding to her. I was responding to you. At what other time do you grind for gear that you get for free later? When else would you be talking about?

Which gear are you saying is free 6 months after current content?
Poetics? Capped currency gear?
Alliance raid gear?

Either way, they still have to work for it. Just in less time. Meanwhile, as said in OP. Some are still gated weekly.

If you think your effort when they were current content is gonna be meaningless, just do it when they're not gated then.
Otherwise, your reward in that case is that you get access to the latest and greatest content with your in-game friends while it's current.

[Gemina]

Pass.

Not a hard pass though. I understand where you're coming from OP. But once they start down this road, where does it end? Completing EW essentially outdates every single area in the game with the exception of the EW areas, and the First. Doing anything of any kind of significance in these zones after completing the MSQ just feels stale. There are some exceptions, but they are few and far between.

A big reason to not really reduce the requirements to finish content like the beast tribes (we're supposed to call them "Tribe Quests now), Custom Deliveries, and the Doman Enclave is because there is not much reason to do so. Very little effort is required to progress them, and they don't roadblock anything as far as the MSQ, and raids go. They are also one-and-done. Meaning once these projects are finished; they are done done. CDs and TQs remain repeatable, but soon get outdated as your allowances are better spent on the most recent NPCs.

Time soakers can be a good thing, so long as the overall time to complete them isn't unreasonable. I don't really believe that is the case right now.

[Serenitey]

Its ok to learn to work for things you want.

[RobynDaBank]

Its ok to learn to work for things you want.

Twiddling thumbs waiting for the next reset isn't work, which is what OP is taking umbrage with.

[Duskane]

I don't think we need beast tribe allowance anymore tbh
like if someone wants to do all 70+beast tribe quest daily go ahead

[ThivraK]

Its ok to learn to work for things you want.

can you explain to me how any of the things the OP is talking about have anything to do with 'work'?
there is precisely zero difference in effort if you can only do it once a day or if you could do the whole beast tribe story in one go, but the first one is artificially prolonged due to the allowances, which are a relic of the past that serve no purpose aside from that

[Larirawiel]

Time gating is bad game design to conceal lack of content. Please do not add it into the game.


Cheers

[Iscah]

Thinking it over, I assume the actual issue isn't getting the story done quicker, but the other rewards that the player gets from the quests.

Uncapping the Doman Restoration would instantly double the selling price of any sales to NPCs forever, instead of a trickled limit of 20,000 gil per week (if you can be bothered going there).

Uncapping beast tribes would mean that every day players could get... what would that be now? Nine quests per day from the ARR tribes (plus whatever extra from the Ixal) and nine total from each expansion? Somewhere around 80 total quest rewards per day instead of 12, and ever increasing.

It's not the story completion that needs to be restricted, but the ongoing daily profit.

Perhaps there could be some workaround that lets you keep donating things or running quests without getting a reward from them? But if not, then there might not be a really good choice in keeping them locked down.

[Vahlnir]

Time gating is bad game design to conceal lack of content. Please do not add it into the game.


Cheers

Time gating already exists, so...