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  1. #41
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    ReynTime's Avatar
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    I don't think we need beast tribe allowance anymore tbh
    like if someone wants to do all 70+beast tribe quest daily go ahead
    For current expansion beast tribes it still makes sense. Limits your access to rewards like endgame materia and crafting materials. And doesn't conflict with grinding from other sources like FATEs, which is probably their intention.

    For past expansions none of the rewards are relevant for endgame and they really shouldn't be capped. At some point there will be so many beast tribe currencies the will have to consider doing something like that.
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  2. #42
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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Time gating already exists, so...
    Jepp. And it is something i do not like. Because it feels for me like an artifical wall.



    Cheers
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  3. #43
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Let's be honest, this isn't about gating, but finding the easy route to gil and items.

    Removing limits on things like custom deliveries and beast tribes opens the flood gates on items. Opening up deliveries in particular makes a ridiculously easy path for getting scrip and all those goods. The market for materia would definitely crash.
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  4. #44
    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
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    walling things behind time gating in an ever going perpetual MMO, what a concept.
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  5. #45
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    For current expansion beast tribes it still makes sense. Limits your access to rewards like endgame materia and crafting materials. And doesn't conflict with grinding from other sources like FATEs, which is probably their intention.

    For past expansions none of the rewards are relevant for endgame and they really shouldn't be capped. At some point there will be so many beast tribe currencies the will have to consider doing something like that.
    it doesn't matter even in current expansions
    you can still only do 3 quest per tribe a day it would be the same
    removing allowance would just let people work on multiple tribes at once.
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  6. #46
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    hagare's Avatar
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    Cesan Duff
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Uncapping the Doman Restoration would instantly double the selling price of any sales to NPCs forever, instead of a trickled limit of 20,000 gil per week (if you can be bothered going there). .
    really? I thought it was just quests and world transformation :V
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  7. #47
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    really? I thought it was just quests and world transformation :V
    I mean, it wouldn't actually alter the shop prices for all the other NPCs, but the Doman Restoration is permanently paying you double the price that any other NPC will pay you for your junk materia and Allagan coins, or whatever you want to sell. But the weekly payout limit of 40,000 gil means you can get, at most, 20,000 gil per week from it (minus teleport fees).

    Take away that cap, and people can instantly dump all of their stashed coins in one go and get a massive amount of bonus gil in one shot.

    I have a big pile of leftover demimateria from desynthesis levelling and I can only hand in a few each week for a small payout. Some weeks I forget entirely. I may never get through everything I intend to donate at this trickled pace.

    If I can sell it all at once, that would be instantly a few million bonus gil that I otherwise have to wait a long time to earn, and remember to make multiple trips.

    Magnified to an everyone scale, it would probably add up to a lot more gil instantly going into the game.
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  8. #48
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    hagare's Avatar
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    Cesan Duff
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I mean, it wouldn't actually alter the shop prices for all the other NPCs, but the Doman Restoration is permanently paying you double the price that any other NPC will pay you for your junk materia and Allagan coins, or whatever you want to sell. But the weekly payout limit of 40,000 gil means you can get, at most, 20,000 gil per week from it (minus teleport fees).

    Take away that cap, and people can instantly dump all of their stashed coins in one go and get a massive amount of bonus gil in one shot.

    I have a big pile of leftover demimateria from desynthesis levelling and I can only hand in a few each week for a small payout. Some weeks I forget entirely. I may never get through everything I intend to donate at this trickled pace.

    If I can sell it all at once, that would be instantly a few million bonus gil that I otherwise have to wait a long time to earn, and remember to make multiple trips.

    Magnified to an everyone scale, it would probably add up to a lot more gil instantly going into the game.
    so when the donation is cleared, you actually get money from selling to that place. Sweet.
    then again, the time gating they were talking about is probably about reaching the end of the donation phase anyway.
    Gating the bonus part should be fine.
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  9. #49
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    Azuri's Avatar
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    Azuri Aeru
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    so when the donation is cleared, you actually get money from selling to that place. Sweet.
    then again, the time gating they were talking about is probably about reaching the end of the donation phase anyway.
    Gating the bonus part should be fine.
    You get gil from the get go. Doman restoration is just a vendor who buys at double the price but has a weekly cap.
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  10. #50
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Yeah, it doesn't make logical sense that they pay you higher rates when you're trying to donate stuff to their cause, but they do for some reason.

    Really they probably should have taken the approach of making it a gil sink (via donating items instead of selling them) over the reconstruction phase and only start paying you back after, but they didn't go that route.
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