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  1. #11
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    Izar_Chillen's Avatar
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    Jhuno Whatt
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    Get rid of the allowance cost for every tribe NPC other than current expansion tribe quest givers

    There are so many tribe quests to do a single days worth of 12 wont allow you to do them all and post ARR they have a max of 3 per day anyway which take 5-10 mins tops to complete so you have to pick qnd choose . Remove the daily cost of the old tribe quests and we have something to do other than farm fates , do our roulettes then log off due to boredom . Keep the daily quest amount (arr 5-6) , (post arr 3) per NPC
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  2. #12
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    Ronduwil Thaliakson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eorzean_username View Post
    I think that progressing through older expansions would be a better experience for newer players if some of the old time-gates are scaled back significantly.
    The me of 13 years ago says, "Yes, please!" But now that I'm older and wiser, I've seen the bottom of this slope. It's not pretty. Removing the timegating has various side effects that destroy the game:
    • Nothing seems to matter anymore. Why invest time in any of the content when you know that in six months it's going to be handed to you for free?
    • You're going to feel like a real idiot for having spent months doing turn-ins for your Doman Enclave back in the day when it's now available to you in a matter of hours.
    • New players will burn through all the old content the game has to offer in a matter of weeks. There isn't enough current content to keep anyone engaged (by design), so there will be a giant drop in subs.
    As someone who's only been playing this game a couple of years, I love that there's still a bunch of stuff to work towards that will keep me occupied for the foreseeable future. I'm diligently turning in my weekly custom deliveries, and I still collect my free weekly 20K from the Doman Enclave long after having completed it. I've farmed one of my Zodiac relics to max, and I look forward to working on others someday. I love that I can make visible progress over a broad range of content without immediately completing it in a single afternoon.
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  3. #13
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Maybe they can stand to scale back some relic steps once more. Maybe cut the atma books in half for ARR. Maybe lower the lights for HW relics a bit more. Other than those, players have nothing BUT time in an MMO. Either you invest the time in what you want or you don't. This is an MMO that will live and breathe for years yet. It gives players a reason to login and let's not forget, to keep paying that sub.
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  4. #14
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    The me of 13 years ago says, "Yes, please!" But now that I'm older and wiser, I've seen the bottom of this slope. It's not pretty. Removing the timegating has various side effects that destroy the game:
    • Nothing seems to matter anymore. Why invest time in any of the content when you know that in six months it's going to be handed to you for free?
    So, how about them adding the ARR beastmen mounts and 70 ex mounts to the moogle event? lol
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  5. #15
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    By the time I finished the Nier weekly and got the ending, I forgot what the quest's story even was.
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  6. #16
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    Elan Centauri
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    These things are time gated, sure, but they have almost no bearing on the MSQ. Players are free to do as they wish. If they want to stop doing the MSQ to focus on optional content they can easily come back and do later with no drawbacks then that's on them, not SE. They can also do all of these things while they do the MSQ. Time gates exist to keep players busy. That's just how it is.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 03-22-2022 at 01:48 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Cesan Duff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    Nothing seems to matter anymore. Why invest time in any of the content when you know that in six months it's going to be handed to you for free?
    isn't that how it works for gear xD
    Increased allowance can be a middle ground I guess.
    3 for each beast tribe. *shrug*
    Then again, that'd just increase the daily work xD
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  8. #18
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    You're going to feel like a real idiot for having spent months doing turn-ins for your Doman Enclave back in the day when it's now available to you in a matter of hours.
    Why would you feel like an idiot for that? Same amount of effort either way and you still got the end result earlier than if you waited for it to be ungated.

    It becomes a matter of how much effort people want to put in now versus how much they're willing to wait. Already we know it's likely to become easier to do things later, and yet people still put in the time to get it now. Sometimes more effort than it would take if they waited.
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  9. #19
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    Ronduwil Thaliakson
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    isn't that how it works for gear xD
    Yes, but your reward in that case is that you get access to the latest and greatest content with your in-game friends while it's current. It's a tradeoff that most people are happy with. What is the up-side to doing the same for solo content?
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  10. #20
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Time-gated content is content for some people. While there are many casual players who want things right now, there are also a lot of players who are bored and want something "to work towards". You can't work towards something if you get it instantly.

    I feel happy when someone's story progression grinds to a halt because of these grinds, because they are getting into the game enough to care about more than just the story and actually care about the progression of their character and decking them out with mounts or glamour.

    The Doman Enclave takes 2 minutes of your time each week. Beast tribe quests take 10 minutes of your time each day, although it would be simpler to reduce the ARR quests to 3 per day so that it's like the expansions.

    After all of the years that have gone by, I still haven't done most of the Custom Deliveries but I'm not concerned about how long they will take. Spending 2 minutes of my time for 4-6 weeks is nothing.
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    Last edited by Jeeqbit; 03-22-2022 at 03:05 AM.
    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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