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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    These were already called out in my posts.

    I already mentioned in my post that there were 2 games in the series that have main party character death (FFII and FFVII). I even called out FFVI in regards to a main character dying if you don’t recruit them back (Shadow).

    FFXII falls into my second post where I said guest party characters are free game. Reks and Reddas are both guest party members, not main party characters who are considered the main cast. All 6 main characters walk away from the events of FFXII with nothing more than bumps and bruises.

    FFX falls into the part of my second post where I said “outside of the ending”. No main characters die outside of the absolute end of the game after gameplay is over. One of those characters has already been dead for 10 years and the other’s death was reversed by the end of the sequel.



    If you’re playing a game and expect the antagonists to come out unscathed and get upset they didn’t because you got attached to them, that’s on you. “Antagonist in a video game” is a profession that doesn’t exactly have a high survival rate.
    You seemed to have forgotten about galuf from ff5 though, as well as tellah from ff4, as well as rem from ff type 0, point is theres a lot, and its a pretty common trend in the series.

    Id argue the same rule youre applying about antagonists could be applied to people and protagonists as well, especially when the setting has to do with war, death, sacrifices, and suffering. Playing a game that deals with these issues and expecting the protagonists to come out unscathed and getting ipset because you got attached to them, sounds a lot like thats on them as well.Unless we're playing the double standard game here.

    The fact here is there are numerous points characters could have died in EW, where it would have great impact and have some meaning. What immediately comes to my mind is the body snatcher plot, which amounted to nothing. They could have used that as a chance to have some death or consequence. Especially when you have Zenos in 5.4/5.5 talking about he will make sure we come to him full of rage....yet nothing happens to that. This is what i mean, dropped plot points because they dont want to kill anone off, so we get horrible cliffhangers like the body swap plot. ITs just as detrimental to the plot as anything else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tehmon View Post
    XIV's story is still ongoing, even if the first saga is complete. And I think the death count for the first saga is pretty good already. To compare it to already finished products and stories that don't need to think about '' oh damn wish we could use this character again but we can't because we offed them '' or '' will the fans of this characters stop enjoying and subscribing to our product if we off them now '' is pretty wack to me. Yeah yeah, artistic integrity or whatnot, but that goes both ways: if the writers don't want to kill anyone right now, then that is their freedom to do so yuh.
    Well this is part of the problem, what if they do want to kill someone off but wont due to the community? We already know 5.3 had two potential plots and they changed it to suit community responses at the time, and Matsuno came out saying he wanted Bozja to have some deaths but some of the devs wouldnt let him.
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