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    A lot of healer mains like how the healers are currently and while I don't like it either I doubt yoship is ever gonna stop cattering to those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minarisweet View Post
    A lot of healer mains like how the healers are currently and while I don't like it either I doubt yoship is ever gonna stop cattering to those.
    They're not healers though. They're players that don't like playing support but were lured in with the promise of "all you have to do is press a button every 30 sec and do mechanics and you'll get EX and Savage clears and people will think you're helping".

    Healers were ripped away from the healer mains. Like many things in this game that were ripped away from the veterans who loved them and handed over to the people who disliked them to bolster participation. Many (not all) "healer mains" now are just leech mains.

    It's most insulting when they post their rants about "dps healers not healing" because their co-heal wasn't blindly spamming Medica II when no one was in danger, or "if you want to dps go play dps" to players who are healing more efficiently than them and contributing a lot to killing the boss. That really rubs the salt into the wound when you do everything you can to support your groups and play well and Sir Succor takes a break from licking windows to talk down to you about being useful, then the actual developer of the game pats him on the head and says "that's right Timmy, you tell them!".

    Healer should just passively pulse aoe heal and be renamed spectator or cheerleader at this point, throw pretense out the window and just let them tag along for the ride as the developers seem to intend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    They're not healers though. They're players that don't like playing support but were lured in with the promise of "all you have to do is press a button every 30 sec and do mechanics and you'll get EX and Savage clears and people will think you're helping".

    Healers were ripped away from the healer mains. Like many things in this game that were ripped away from the veterans who loved them and handed over to the people who disliked them to bolster participation. Many (not all) "healer mains" now are just leech mains.

    It's most insulting when they post their rants about "dps healers not healing" because their co-heal wasn't blindly spamming Medica II when no one was in danger, or "if you want to dps go play dps" to players who are healing more efficiently than them and contributing a lot to killing the boss. That really rubs the salt into the wound when you do everything you can to support your groups and play well and Sir Succor takes a break from licking windows to talk down to you about being useful, then the actual developer of the game pats him on the head and says "that's right Timmy, you tell them!".

    Healer should just passively pulse aoe heal and be renamed spectator or cheerleader at this point, throw pretense out the window and just let them tag along for the ride as the developers seem to intend.
    This is how I feel about it too but I feel at this point its kinda beating around a dead horse, maybe im wrong and he'll say something about it next live letter but other old healer mains know better than me he only makes things worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minarisweet View Post
    This is how I feel about it too but I feel at this point its kinda beating around a dead horse, maybe im wrong and he'll say something about it next live letter but other old healer mains know better than me he only makes things worse.
    Do you suppose it would be better if Yoshi-P gets replaced at this point? It seems a lot of people in the forum arent too happy with how the game is running from healing to story to overall content releases. People are acting like this game is just bad now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Do you suppose it would be better if Yoshi-P gets replaced at this point? It seems a lot of people in the forum arent too happy with how the game is running from healing to story to overall content releases. People are acting like this game is just bad now
    Yoship is a grey area for me I'd just like it if he didn't ignore healers but he is not the worst director either, but that's my opinion atleast.

    Also I don't think anyone is saying the game is bad? A lot of people say x part of the game sucks or could've been done better but im pretty sure anyone in these forums giving their thoughts even if negative about the game likes the game and wants it to be better. I'll be kinda blunt for a sec tho but the people complaining about story kinda were too overhyped for ew lol.
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    i still say the reason why most of shb story was well received was cause it had alot more freedom to build and to be on topic i do miss sb healer styles and broken bard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minarisweet View Post
    Yoship is a grey area for me I'd just like it if he didn't ignore healers but he is not the worst director either, but that's my opinion atleast.

    Also I don't think anyone is saying the game is bad? A lot of people say x part of the game sucks or could've been done better but im pretty sure anyone in these forums giving their thoughts even if negative about the game likes the game and wants it to be better. I'll be kinda blunt for a sec tho but the people complaining about story kinda were too overhyped for ew lol.
    Im being melodramatic with that statement of course but yeah over the course of me spending time on these forums it just feels like in general people arent happy with the game, which what prompting me to think maybe we need a new switch of directors if Yoshi-P aint cutting it no more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Im being melodramatic with that statement of course but yeah over the course of me spending time on these forums it just feels like in general people arent happy with the game, which what prompting me to think maybe we need a new switch of directors if Yoshi-P aint cutting it no more.
    My suggestion is spend more time in the game than on the forums if you feel this way. What you're hearing here is the hivemind's chorus. Granted, players come to the forums to vent their frustrations, which is all well and good as the game is not and never will be perfect. However, when it congregates into a pitchfork mob that shut out any and all voices trying to reason with them, and a demand for current team members to step down and away from their passion; it becomes something much different than that.

    Those team members have contractual obligations, families, and livelihoods that make it difficult to part ways even if this is what one or more of them wanted. The same cannot be said for those who are unsatisfied to the point the game in no longer enjoyable. They can simply unsub. Otherwise, all they are doing is supporting a game, system, and dev team they are strictly against, which makes absolutely zero sense.

    If you want to formulate your own impression of healing in FFXIV, I would pick one or more of them up, max them out, and take it/them into all kinds of content. A Newgame+ chapter or two, Hall of Novice, Squadrons/Trusts etc. are all viable along with raids. Once you do, you may very well develop the same opinion on healing as what rings in your ears. But at least it will be yours.
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