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  1. #401
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    Silvarer's Avatar
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    Taelis Sola
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 90
    I hate Asahi the most because he is completely repugnant in every way. Zenos, Varis, and Zephirin can all join him in rotting in hell too.
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  2. #402
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    NanaWiloh's Avatar
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Silvarer View Post
    I hate Asahi the most because he is completely repugnant in every way. Zenos, Varis, and Zephirin can all join him in rotting in hell too.
    Ashai was the pinnacle of fanboyism lol Hope from 13 is the only other character I can think of who came close to that level of obession over someone.
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  3. #403
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    Sajah Lane
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    Reaper Lv 88
    My original answer was Minfilia, and I still stand by that, but Venat is an easy #2. The only reason she isn't #1 is because she was likeable in Elpis whereas Minfilia was never likeable. We're also done with Venat, whereas with Minfilia I question if we ever will be because she keeps turning up like a bad penny. Both suffer from the same positive narrative treatment and your character can never express any dislike for them. I don't know what it is that anything involving Hydaelyn is like that. I don't particularly like Krile either and I wonder if that's part of it.
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  4. #404
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    Jagick Valarius
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 90
    I've yet to go into Endwalker, and while he was more bearable in Shadowbringers, ARR - Stormblood made me absolutely despise Alphinaud. I got so sick of watching that arrogant literal child fumble every single thing he tried to do on our behalf or make stupid choices in general, spend half an expansion crying about how much he screwed up and how he'll do better next time, and then proceed to eventually majorly screw up again.

    Why were we constantly letting this person make the strategic and diplomatic decisions again? Just about anyone else would have been better.
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  5. #405
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    Carin-Eri's Avatar
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    Carin Eri
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Zenos, for committing the ultimate sin of a character in a story: He's boring.
    Agreed - definitely one of the negative aspects where he is concerned. For me (and with the fact I'm realitively new and am in the early part of Endwalker at this time):

    - He has NO personality beyond 'bored manchild' and psychotic obsession with the WoL.
    - I hate that he is presented as being OP to the point where he literally dies but manages to come back to life through some really flimsy 'sheer force of will' type line of reasoning.
    - Oh look, he has a massive scythe now.... and that's supposed to be impressive? I'll concede that there are players who did find this impressive (reaction videos) but, from what I can ascertain, some of this could be afforded to the fact that it heralded the introduction of the Reaper job. Personally, this just indicated that I have another fight against him at some point - something I have absolutely NO interest in.
    - My only real thought where he is concerned is that I want any part of the game that involves him over and done with so we can move on with the story

    And it doesn't help that he often appears subsequent to positive story elements - just saved the word? Wonderful! Now here's Zenos to remind you not to celebrate too much.

    To be honest, every time the game does anything that involves him I just sigh in disappointment. THAT is the sort of 'character' he is - the sort who makes you think "aw, not him again"
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    Last edited by Carin-Eri; 03-14-2022 at 05:23 PM.

  6. #406
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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Zenos, for committing the ultimate sin of a character in a story: He's boring.
    Zenos is only a mirror image of the player. I guess, that is the reason why the people do not like him.


    Cheers
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  7. #407
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    Zenos is only a mirror image of the player. I guess, that is the reason why the people do not like him.


    Cheers
    Yeah, it's like taking out everything that makes a character interesting, makes them.....not interesting.
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  8. #408
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    Serenitey's Avatar
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    Luna Star
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I know this will bring nerd rage but Y'shtola. Just never really warmed to her and her space is filled by Urianger in my mind. Sorry sorry.
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    Wise men speak because the have something to say, fools because they have to say something. - Plato - He saw the ff forums apparently.

  9. #409
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    Lyaeria Rikason
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Cid
    I hate this whitebearded, self-rightous, narcissistic fool! Doesn't allow for any other engineer than him, especially if it's another garlean (Nero). Once there's an engineering accomplishment that's not from him, he claims it. Builds an entire company to feed his narcissism. Well... and I have also something against disloyalty, which he presented when abandoning his garlean brethrens.

    If all expansions were equally great, Shadowbringers would still triumph because no Cid.

    Was there a chance who to kill off, I'd immediately place Cid in front of the canons and delete his existence from the lore.
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  10. #410
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    StriderShinryu's Avatar
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    Zenos is only a mirror image of the player. I guess, that is the reason why the people do not like him.


    Cheers
    Eh, Zenos is only a mirror image of the player if, well, he is a mirror image of the player. The game seems to at times desperately want to portray him that way but the player (and their individual character) are undefined. so an actual proper "mirror image" is impossible. Just another reason Zenos is a complete failure and waste of space as a character.
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