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    Shibi's Avatar
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    ... in stacks of 99 aren't bot crafting all those.
    Have you never sat and macro crafted 33 times in a row?

    From there, it's not hard to craft that 33 deep stack 10 times over.

    I've done it often enough.
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    Avellin Adorel
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Have you never sat and macro crafted 33 times in a row?

    From there, it's not hard to craft that 33 deep stack 10 times over.

    I've done it often enough.
    Yes, all the time. It still takes a long time to craft 3k+ items.

    My macro takes 50s to craft these, 55s if you want to include the pauses between macro and between crafts. That means it would take over 15 hours non-stop to craft 1000 times resulting in 3k total like this person seems to be posting.

    So either someone doesn't have anything else to do in life, which is possible, or they bot. I'm leaning toward botting. It's never been this bad in this game, ever.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    t's never been this bad in this game, ever.
    From my personal experience, it's been gods-awful ever since Stormblood eased the crafting requirements/difficulty and got even worse once the Firmament enabled power-leveling of DoL/H professions. There are now "one and done" scripts that will basically take a fresh character with Firmament access and grind everything DoL/H from 1-80 with scarcely any input needed.

    The same few people have been flooding Cactuar's MB with thousands of tinctures since that time and some of them are multi-boxing multiple bots to maximize efficiency and churn them out basically 24/7.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 03-09-2022 at 02:56 PM.

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    Mira Clearweaver
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    At this point I’d be more grateful if they let us set the amount of items to HQ-craft like how we set quick synth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    Yes, all the time. It still takes a long time to craft 3k+ items.
    Yep, it does, but I am sure you, like I could, can do 5 batches of 33 without really getting bored. That's 500. Do that each day for a week. 3500. List as you go, or save and list at the end.

    It's never been this bad in this game, ever.
    Crafting is so simple to level, and EW made it even easier.
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Yep, it does, but I am sure you, like I could, can do 5 batches of 33 without really getting bored. That's 500. Do that each day for a week. 3500. List as you go, or save and list at the end.
    That's still at least 17 hours for 7-10m gil. I wouldn't be bothered personally.

    But anyway, it's not unbelievable that one person could craft a few thousand pots when bored over the week. I'm sure plenty of legitimate crafters do. But in a lot of cases it's not just a once-off few thousand pots, it's a constant steady supply, day after day, that adds up to tens of thousands and often across multiple worlds.

    Bulk sellers should not automatically be suspected of being bots, but let's not pretend they don't exist.
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