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  1. #11
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    Yeol's Avatar
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    Dr Yeol
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    You'd be surprised what two individuals can do.

    Two friends of mine once gathered for a whole week, and spend the following week crafting. Flooded the market with low price pots. They didn't want the Gil. They did it because 'we had nothing better to do'.

    Needless to say, they got a bunch of tells from solo crafters that were not happy
    Crafters bought their low price pots and sold them again for a higher price.
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    "BAAAAAARD!" - 2018

  2. #12
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    Chyro Soulpaw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    You'd be surprised what two individuals can do.

    Two friends of mine once gathered for a whole week, and spend the following week crafting. Flooded the market with low price pots. They didn't want the Gil. They did it because 'we had nothing better to do'.

    Needless to say, they got a bunch of tells from solo crafters that were not happy
    Crafters bought their low price pots and sold them again for a higher price.
    How did they get tells from unhappy solo crafters? The MB doesn't display char names, only retainer names no?
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  3. #13
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    Dr Yeol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chyro View Post
    How did they get tells from unhappy solo crafters? The MB doesn't display char names, only retainer names no?


    Crafted items will have the crafter name at the very bottom.

    You can see my character name under "Sells for 33 gil".
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    "BAAAAAARD!" - 2018

  4. #14
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    Chyro Soulpaw
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    Oh right. .. forgot that little detail. (even though technically that could mean its a resold item crafted by someone other than the seller, but guess by huge amounts that would be unlikely xD)
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  5. #15
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Yep, it does, but I am sure you, like I could, can do 5 batches of 33 without really getting bored. That's 500. Do that each day for a week. 3500. List as you go, or save and list at the end.
    That's still at least 17 hours for 7-10m gil. I wouldn't be bothered personally.

    But anyway, it's not unbelievable that one person could craft a few thousand pots when bored over the week. I'm sure plenty of legitimate crafters do. But in a lot of cases it's not just a once-off few thousand pots, it's a constant steady supply, day after day, that adds up to tens of thousands and often across multiple worlds.

    Bulk sellers should not automatically be suspected of being bots, but let's not pretend they don't exist.
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  6. #16
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    The true issue here is obviously that it is not possible to place stacks in quantities of x999 on the MB.
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  7. #17
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    Jhuno Whatt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    I do wonder... Who gonna bought 60 of that hair?
    Possibly RMT sellers using advanced scripts/memory hacks to dupe items and this listing items like this so they can launder monies via a "legit" transaction between each others mule characters
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  8. #18
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chyro View Post
    Oh right. .. forgot that little detail. (even though technically that could mean its a resold item crafted by someone other than the seller, but guess by huge amounts that would be unlikely xD)
    You underestimate the powers of stupid people who believed MB should operate under their idea of rules.
    I had someone who can trace algoat horn back to me
    He apparently is pissed at I am selling 20 a war at 495 Gil while he insists it should be 1000 gils 99 a set
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  9. #19
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    Leon Keyh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izar_Chillen View Post
    Possibly RMT sellers using advanced scripts/memory hacks to dupe items and this listing items like this so they can launder monies via a "legit" transaction between each others mule characters
    Dupe items via memory hacks? I don't think that stuff is client based I would find it incredibly unlikely that someone could dupe items. I doubt any of those exploits exist anymore.

    That IS likely an attempt at "laundering" RMT though. Instead of trading the money to the person and throwing up red flags, they have the "buyer" put some garbage MB listing up and the seller purchases it.
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