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    I think when the devs contradict and undermine their own meta textual messages, it’s a sign that maybe they aren’t as concrete as they’d like people to believe. I’d find their themes a lot easier to swallow if they didn’t have to contradict them just for the heroes to win or for specific characters to be painted in a good light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I think when the devs contradict and undermine their own meta textual messages, it’s a sign that maybe they aren’t as concrete as they’d like people to believe. I’d find their themes a lot easier to swallow if they didn’t have to contradict them just for the heroes to win or for specific characters to be painted in a good light.
    Which meta-textual parts are you referring to specifically?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucida3b View Post
    Which meta-textual parts are you referring to specifically?
    While i may not exactly regard said themes or textual parts as “meta” myself, the themes along the lines of suffering, learning to deal with loss, moving forward instead of being tied to the past etc. These have all been contradicted by things like the scions suffering level being incredibly low, them being brought back at the end of UT, the 8UC timeline where they were willing to sacrifice the entire timeline to bring the wol back etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    What is the Meta message of the story?
    To live is to suffer, death is the only certainty and yet life is still worth fighting for.

    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    While i may not exactly regard said themes or textual parts as “meta” myself, the themes along the lines of suffering, learning to deal with loss, moving forward instead of being tied to the past etc. These have all been contradicted by things like the scions suffering level being incredibly low,
    Subjective. I think four expansions of war and death enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    them being brought back at the end of UT, the 8UC timeline where they were willing to sacrifice the entire timeline to bring the wol back etc etc.
    Bringing the Scions back is the proof that life is not inevitably hopeless or cruel. You’ve talked at length in the past how you dislike the Scions, maybe you’re just frustrated they’re not dead? And the 8th UC timeline has its own nuances and intricacies that you seem happy to ignore.

    Look if you don’t think it earned that theme fine, but recognize this comes down to personal taste and is not an objective judgement of the story.
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