Can we get an option to remove tails from tailed races?

[Larirawiel]

Mhhh, why do you play a tailed race when you do not want a tail? It's like playing a Lalafell and not wanting a small race.



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[Nezerius]

Mhhh, why do you play a tailed race when you do not want a tail? It's like playing a Lalafell and not wanting a small race.

Because there's players out there (me included) who like playing tailed races, but dislike how any cloaked armor looks bad due to the tail just straight up clipping through it.

Of course, SE designing armors while keeping tails in mind would be preferable, but unlikely to happen outside of rare occasions.

[Krotoan]

Mhhh, why do you play a tailed race when you do not want a tail? It's like playing a Lalafell and not wanting a small race.



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It's not that people don't want tails all the time.. it's that sometimes tails do this:


stolen from this:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-Werewolf-Body

and it'd be nice if we had an option to hide them (like they were tucked into the clothing) instead of having the tail clip through a cape the whole time or phasing through a loosely fitting robe.

It'd be fine if they modeled things to look more like it has a tail "hole"... but nope.. Goldfish poop looking tail sticking out of the thing and clipping through the cloth like it's not there.


So rather than remodel or make rules for the clothing.. let us decide if we like how the tail looks on whatever and give us a toggle. It's possible since SOME outfits do it.. so howbout you just give us control over it?

[Arzalis]

It's not that people don't want tails all the time.. it's that sometimes tails do this:


stolen from this:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-Werewolf-Body

and it'd be nice if we had an option to hide them (like they were tucked into the clothing) instead of having the tail clip through a cape the whole time or phasing through a loosely fitting robe.

It'd be fine if they modeled things to look more like it has a tail "hole"... but nope.. Goldfish poop looking tail sticking out of the thing and clipping through the cloth like it's not there.


So rather than remodel or make rules for the clothing.. let us decide if we like how the tail looks on whatever and give us a toggle. It's possible since SOME outfits do it.. so howbout you just give us control over it?

This has already been fixed. That's the problem with linking a thread from 2017. Full body suits like those have made tails be hidden for years now. It's the reason they made that flag, and it's the one time it should be used because it makes logical sense: There's nowhere for it to go and it won't be seen.

Things like the moonward set are really jarring because you can clearly see it's missing from any angle that isn't directly behind you. The tail hide flag wasn't made to be used that way.

Gonna agree with the others, honestly. If you don't want a tail don't play a tailed race.

I also agree it's been frustrating as of ShB that they've also started just chopping miqo'te ears off, even in cases it would honestly be fine to just let them clip through (the straw hat comes to mind.) It's really kind of sad that gear accommodated the races in ARR better than it does now. Doesn't the game make more money, not less?

[Krotoan]

This has already been fixed. That's the problem with linking a thread from 2017. Full body suits like those have made tails be hidden for years now. It's the reason they made that flag, and it's the one time it should be used because it makes logical sense: There's nowhere for it to go and it won't be seen.

I'm glad they have, but I'm also aware that this has been a problem on a few body suits as recently as last year. I don't particularly LIKE those suits... but it skeeves me out when I see one and it's got the "goldfish poop" syndrome going on and I'm reasonably sure the people wearing them are probably not pleased either.

Things like the moonward set are really jarring because you can clearly see it's missing from any angle that isn't directly behind you. The tail hide flag wasn't made to be used that way.

And if that bothers you then maybe don't use the option?

Gonna agree with the others, honestly. If you don't want a tail don't play a tailed race.

Of what consequence to you would it be if OTHERS could choose how they wanted their character to deal with their tail? This interest in what OTHERS can do that you don't want them to do for .. unknown reasons.. is one of the weirder positions I see on this forum.

[Arzalis]

And if that bothers you then maybe don't use the option?

I don't. It's frustrating because the armor is otherwise really nice and it shouldn't be an issue to begin with. SE needs to do better. It's bizarre they think it's fine to just cut tails off when the vast majority of the playerbase plays races with tails and made the conscious choice to do so.

Of what consequence to you would it be if OTHERS could choose how they wanted their character to deal with their tail? This interest in what OTHERS can do that you don't want them to do for .. unknown reasons.. is one of the weirder positions I see on this forum.

Because it's not consistent. It's the same reason people don't like when tails or ears get chopped off. You're trying take a thing and mold it into something it's not and was never supposed to be. It also just doesn't really address the core issue which is that SE doesn't care to support all the race options they have in the game. Viera and Hrothgar are the worst offenders here, of course, but they've gotten a lot worse about Miqo'te, Au Ra, etc. since ShB.

[Krotoan]

I don't. It's frustrating because the armor is otherwise really nice and it shouldn't be an issue to begin with. SE needs to do better. It's bizarre they think it's fine to just cut tails off when the vast majority of the playerbase plays races with tails and made the conscious choice to do so.

So .. mayyybe a /tail option would allow sets that unwantedly cut off tails to show them as well? Sounds plausible.

Because it's not consistent. It's the same reason people don't like when tails or ears get chopped off. You're trying take a thing and mold it into something it's not and was never supposed to be. It also just doesn't really address the core issue which is that SE doesn't care to support all the race options they have in the game. Viera and Hrothgar are the worst offenders here, of course, but they've gotten a lot worse about Miqo'te, Au Ra, etc. since ShB.

I don't think gatekeeping smaller fixes under the pretense of "there is a larger core issue" is a good way to get anything done.

Sure I think cutting of the racial features of the races is a bad thing. But ... in this thread.. in this case..

having an option to show or hide tails would be nice and would be adding to our options, not detracting.

[Nezerius]

This has already been fixed. That's the problem with linking a thread from 2017. Full body suits like those have made tails be hidden for years now. It's the reason they made that flag, and it's the one time it should be used because it makes logical sense: There's nowhere for it to go and it won't be seen.

Unfortunately, the full body suits posted by the person you quoted have never been fixed. Those still show a character's tail, despite SE having the ability to hide them.