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  1. #191
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    Avatar de Kaurhz
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Citation Envoyé par Raoabolic Voir le message
    You DO realize that the 2 week thing was just another bullet point on a growing list of how SE is slowing down content for a game that is earning SE record numbers, right? lol
    Like I said, and that depends entirely on what you would actually deem as content. Over the most recent years they've been more varied in content comparative to ARR. The only unfortunate trade-off thus far has been that some of the content is just a 1-off experience. So personally, I would beg to differ.

    You do equally realise that Quality of Life changes that the game has undergone require a considerable amount of planning and development resources too, right? Lol. Many of them actually making it considerably easier for people to get into the game without quitting immediately.

    But as I've said, they understand, as do I that this game is not the only one on the market. So personally I can appreciate it given the freedom I have to play whatever else I wish without essentially feeling enslaved by the game.
    (5)

  2. #192
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    Avatar de Raoabolic
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Coeurl
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    Citation Envoyé par Kaurhz Voir le message
    You do equally realise that Quality of Life changes that the game has undergone require a considerable amount of planning and development resources too, right? Lol. Many of them actually making it considerably easier for people to get into the game without quitting immediately.
    You're right, SE is a small company with limited resources. Please understand, lol. I like this game a lot and it would be pretty sad to see it die just like WoW; a slow, painful death while everyone claps.
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  3. #193
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    Calamity J'aina
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    Rafflesia
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    Érudit Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Raoabolic Voir le message
    You DO realize that the 2 week thing was just another bullet point on a growing list of how SE is slowing down content for a game that is earning SE record numbers, right? lol
    You do realize SE doesn't plow 100% of that money back into FF14, right? lol
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  4. #194
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    Avatar de Kaurhz
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Citation Envoyé par Raoabolic Voir le message
    You're right, SE is a small company with limited resources. Please understand, lol. I like this game a lot and it would be pretty sad to see it die just like WoW; a slow, painful death while everyone claps.
    Way to misconstrue the argument. I just stated that QoL consumes a considerable amount of resources. Besides small indie company or multi-billion dollar company or not. Finding talent is not an easy a task as you'd like to believe, or anyone for that matter. But hey, I heard they were hiring and have even gone as far as to advertise this on their PLL, several times. So by all means apply.

    Yes it would be. But the issues people take with the game as not homogenous. Many people here seem to have issue with the amount of content. By comparison I don't. I just take an issue with the replay value behind some of their more recently released content. But on the other hand, I've seen first-hand what this looks like under their current philosophy with Ishgard Restoration.. Hurrah for unreasonable grinds.

    I think this game is a long shot from a slow and painful death. But that would be your own personal opinion, as it would be with mine. It's impossible to please everyone, equally, it's impossible to please people who digest content far quicker than what it can be developed. Finding a middle-ground between players that have the luxury of being able to play 6 hours daily, and those that can play weekends for perhaps 3-4 hours is difficult.
    (5)

  5. #195
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    Avatar de ForteNightshade
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    octobre 2013
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Atelier-Bagur Voir le message
    Well....this is me but I havent finished my relic grinds for the jobs that I want, which is a repeatable activity that keeps me busy before the next patch comes in. Just saying.
    Congratulations. As a veteran player of seven years, I don't have that luxury as I have long since finished all the relics I want (and several others) because of the very frequent dearth of content this game has for long time players.

    You can't really compare your content grind as a new player (judging by your join date) and someone who has played for years. Naturally, you'll have significantly more to do.

    Citation Envoyé par TaleraRistain Voir le message
    They do put out content like that. And then people grind the heck out of it, get the rewards they want, and then complain there's no content. Relics, for instance. They put those out with the idea that they're lasting content, but then people rush it to get what they want and then demand more because they finished too quickly. Like Zephyr said, this team of developers realized trying to chase that idea is a losing game. They put out the content and we can choose to partake or not partake.
    Do you know why people "grind the heck of out it?" Because they're often bored, having waited months for something to actually do. Look at 6.1. Assuming you have no interest in Ultimate, none of that content will remotely last four months. It'll barely last two weeks unless PvP actually has a resurgence after their fourth attempt at an overhaul. Don't get me wrong, I hope this is the fix that finally sticks. I'd love to have fun, meaningful PvP but based on their track record, I'm not exactly getting my hopes up. Beyond that, you have farming Endsinger 50 times. That's it in terms of lasting content. Why they take so long to release the relic always baffles me. It's the one piece of longevity tailored content FF has but they wait almost an entire year to get it going.

    Not to mention when it comes to grind oriented content, you typically want to get it done fast as you'll have a far larger pool of players doing it. Case in point, the whole "Memory of the Dying" step with the ShB relic. FATEs were getting mowed down by the minute in the first several weeks. Afterwards? You'd only spot a handful of people at best bothering.
    (8)
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  6. #196
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    Avatar de SamsaraTrickstar
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    Samsara Trickster
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    Chevalier noir Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Skiros Voir le message
    What are players who aren't going to do Ultimate do for four months in 6.1?

    1. Do the alliance raid, which probably takes 1-2 hours to complete on day 1.

    2. Do the Tataru and Hildebrand quests which take 2 hours judging by previous instances.

    3. Do the new extreme trial which takes like 2-4 hours to clear.

    4. Waste 5 mins every day on beast tribes, and waste 3 mins every week on custom delivery.

    Congratulations that's all you have for 4 months. $60 in subscription fees. That's even less than what you get from the typical AAA single player title.

    With this little content they should be accelerating patch delivery, not slowing it down.
    i don't but i really see any one that care. mostly its people that say "good i can play other game" or "good i have thing i need to do in game any ways". if i to say the people that do care and see where it go are maybe 5%.
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  7. #197
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    Samsara Trickster
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    Citation Envoyé par CaptainLagbeard Voir le message
    Because you're not required to play the entire time.

    Most people could probably finish what they want to do for the patch in like a month or so, then they can just let the sub drop and not be punished in any way. Then come back for the next patch.
    onlly lose time gear? raid gear? and the house they got.
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  8. #198
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    Avatar de DPZ2
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    Dal S'ta
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    Gilgamesh
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    Barde Lv 97
    Citation Envoyé par Raoabolic Voir le message
    You're right, SE is a small company with limited resources. Please understand, lol. I like this game a lot and it would be pretty sad to see it die just like WoW; a slow, painful death while everyone claps.
    Square Enix is a moderately sized entertainment company with multiple divisions and annual budgets for each. It does not revolve solely around the Final Fantasy XIV franchise, and funds from every division are put to work where the company decides, not where the division Producers necessarily would like. From a budgetary standpoint, their online and mobile games make 2-3 times as much in revenue in any given year than the entire MMO division. Where would you, as a responsible corporate officer, put the funds for future growth?

    I do so despise the flippant word salad that posters decide makes them points. "SE is a small company" earns zero points. It hasn't been an original point in almost a decade.
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  9. #199
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    Avatar de MintnHoney
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    Aylin Bielawska
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    Adamantoise
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    Astromancien Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Kaurhz Voir le message
    But hey, I heard they were hiring and have even gone as far as to advertise this on their PLL, several times. So by all means apply.
    For French and German translators, specifically, yes.
    Probably not going to make much of a difference, if any, in the content development of this game. And if it does, then there's something very wrong.

    But on the other hand, I've seen first-hand what this looks like under their current philosophy with Ishgard Restoration.. Hurrah for unreasonable grinds.
    I'd say that the only reason it became unreasonable is because it was a time-gated competitive event. Note, however, that the replay value of Ishgard Restoration is now, for the most part, gone, now that the restoration is complete.

    Citation Envoyé par DPZ2 Voir le message
    Square Enix... does not revolve solely around the Final Fantasy XIV franchise
    You're right, they revolve mostly around Final Fantasy VII.
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  10. #200
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    Dal S'ta
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    Citation Envoyé par MintnHoney Voir le message
    You're right, they revolve mostly around Final Fantasy VII.
    Hurrah for Final Fantasy VII! The HD Games Division rose from the ashes on the back of FF VII after the Marvel Avengers debacle lost them so much money.
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