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  1. #91
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    RobynDaBank's Avatar
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I sometimes don't bother dodging AoEs on trash when I'm on Machinist and casting Flamethrower. Of course, since I've healed the dungeons I'm now doing as DD I'll be certain that the damage I take isn't excessive to bother the healer. I use Second Wind and time my Tactician, okay?!

    Also, this is going to sound accusatory but reading OP's posts across the Tank forums and other threads, I can safely say they prefer healers never, ever damage and keep them topped at all times. I mean, I'm all for healing > damage, but it's not like there's two extremes to this. You can damage while healing, developers are facilitating it. You as a tank can rotate your defensives properly and live without heals until 30%. Just because your health fell a bit doesn't need to mean it's all over.
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  2. #92
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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Only if you think the people are doing that (or have communicated they are as I mentioned about the "healer adjust" attitude) entirely on purpose and are deliberately setting out to screw up and mess up your day. All of those could be someone is new, someone is inexperienced, someone has a mechanic they just don't get, someone is tired, someone got momentarily distracted, someone is just off that day, or any other thing that could be happening behind the screen. I see this mindset a lot, that random players are messing up on purpose just to ruin someone else's run. And it's just not true. The vast majority of players are just trying to get through the run for whatever reason they need to run it. Trying to label them with things like uncooperative and playing badly is just trying to justify punitive behavior.
    Note that i did note label these players, this wasn't accidental, this is where people can typically start bickering back and forth.

    On the contrary, I want people to recognize that there is an effect that this type of behaviour has on healers, and that should be considered.

    Can some healers seem to judge the players i described? Yes, that is human nature- some healers could get frustrated for example, there are all kinds of healers. Personally i do not see this mindset "a lot", I do see more of the "let's deal with the cards we're dealt, get through this run' mentality. "
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  3. #93
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Note that i did note label these players, this wasn't accidental, this is where people can typically start bickering back and forth.

    On the contrary, I want people to recognize that there is an effect that this type of behaviour has on healers, and that should be considered.

    Can some healers seem to judge the players i described? Yes, that is human nature- some healers could get frustrated for example, there are all kinds of healers. Personally i do not see this mindset "a lot", I do see more of the "let's deal with the cards we're dealt, get through this run' mentality. "
    I should correct with I see the mindset *here*. In game, it's exactly as you said. We're all just trying to get through the run in most PUGs I get.
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  4. #94
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    AmpelioB's Avatar
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    Kaimir Barone
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I don't know man, your experiences are not universal never had this before nor anyone commenting about it
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  5. #95
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DanielNegreanu_Adamantoise View Post
    The more I see these the more I think that duty roulette needs to be earned by recent recent player commendations.
    There’s a lot of 90 percenters (90s across the board) with terrible attitudes, probably because they play too much and you are slowing them down.
    People who view the duty roulette xp as an entitlement.
    Maybe not +1 commendations but some kind of karma idk, those kinds of players nobody wants to play with and nobody should have to suffer them in duty roulette
    I got showered with comms in my earlier days of being Suckorbot, Adlobot, and Physickbot.

    Nowadays comms are only ”because you’re healer”-gesture or genuine compliments for i.e saving bad runs.

    I can already see what kind of healer I’m going to be paired with if I play any other roles. Yeah no. I’m hugging tight my green icon.
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  6. #96
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    LittleImp's Avatar
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    Lil Imp
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    After checking the forbidden site, I have a very strong feeling that OP isn't playing their job effectively, and is simply blaming other players for their own shortcomings.
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  7. #97
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    Daniel Negreanu
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    I got showered with comms in my earlier days of being Suckorbot, Adlobot, and Physickbot.

    Nowadays comms are only ”because you’re healer”-gesture or genuine compliments for i.e saving bad runs.

    I can already see what kind of healer I’m going to be paired with if I play any other roles. Yeah no. I’m hugging tight my green icon.
    These are exactly the kind of people who don't deserve the privilege of using the duty finder
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  8. #98
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    After checking the forbidden site, I have a very strong feeling that OP isn't playing their job effectively, and is simply blaming other players for their own shortcomings.
    Not just ineffectively, I have a feeling they literally don't touch their mitigation at all as PLD, including group mitigation.
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  9. #99
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    Mapleine's Avatar
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    Elodie Claire
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    Leviathan
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    Sage Lv 100
    How do you even wind up as a tank and not use mitigation? Because I've seen this more commonly and I don't get it. Without the mitigation tools you're kinda just a wonky DPS, clearly that has to feel off to people doesn't it?

    Same thing on healers though I guess, the entire role has been boiled down to a few reactionary OGCDs you simply weave between DPS with spell queing and... people still can't do it. The role has been so outrageously simplified it could be easily substituted on others and removed from the game entirely.
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    Last edited by Mapleine; 03-07-2022 at 03:43 AM.

  10. #100
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Famfrit
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    Paladin Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Not just ineffectively, I have a feeling they literally don't touch their mitigation at all as PLD, including group mitigation.
    I shall have to share these findings.

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