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  1. #341
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfsbane706 View Post
    Had a Perfect Legend trio in leveling roulette a few nights ago. I was SGE and the dungeon was Sirensong Sea. I got the impression they may have bought their titles/clears/whatever because they apparently didn't know how Sage works. I got accused of being a bot after we wiped to a very large group of trash (admittedly due to my own mixing up of Druochole/Ixochole) after the DRK tank popped Living Dead. We wiped again on the last big pull before the final boss. Granted both were probably my fault for thinking Kardia heals and the occasional shield could keep a tank alive but the "Are you a bot" comment was a little rude and uncalled for.
    Calling someone a bot just because of a wipe is rude indeed and doesn't help one bit but I don't see how they apparently didn't know how SGE worked? And what that was to do with buying a title or not? All 3 Ultimates were released before SGE and nobody is expected to know all classes inside out just because they cleared an Ultimate. Doesn't excuse the bot comment, of course.

    That said, Kardia (and fairy autos) is passive baseline healing and nothing more. It's normal for every healer to burn through the whole toolkit on wall to walls while bosses serve as a good cooldown reset because there is so little going on. SGE is no different there.
    Reshield the tank on the run while he's still pulling so he starts with full HP when everything is gathered and either dot everything or spam Dyskrasia on the run while the tank is still healthy.
    Once he stands still, Kerachole for mitigation and to avoid wasting stacks and Physis + Sorteria because Kardia autos profit from the small heal buff and you can keep dpsing for longer. Can slightly delay both by a GCD or two if you crit shielded and the tank hasn't lost HP yet. At lower levels I recommend sprinkling in EDiag before you completely burned through all the Addersgall stacks to spread healing a bit more evenly.
    And as Cheremia said: Tauro when Kera mitigation ran out. 10% for 15s is a lot.
    It takes some practice to know how much you need to GCD heal in addition to keeping all oGCDs rolling and when you should start using them and it varies with each group but you'll get the hang out of it. You already took not that Kardia and the occasional shield is not enough, it can only get better from now on.
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  2. #342
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Rolled as a WHM into Dead Ends Roulette.

    Met the legendary 8 vuln stacks WAR.

    : )
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  3. #343
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    Byonka's Avatar
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    Beonka Taro
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by funkman View Post
    8 years playing, I finally came across something funny enough that I felt I could share with TftDF - a bizarre wipe scenario I have never seen, even when this raid was new:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHbb84OUnjs

    sorry it's just a link, I can't figure out how to embed a video...
    also sorry if this is old news, like I said, I've not seen this since I started lol

    My years of 24mans has prepared me for this moment!!!

    When three adds are out at once (as seen here in B's lane.) they Link up and get a DMG Up bonus. At this point - standing on the pad can be a detriment if the adds are being held at the opposite end. When three adds link up, you have to switch to the adds before they obliterate your team, even if that means temporarily stepping off your pad!!

    Iron Giant will spawn if there aren't enough players to fulfill the "4 on a pad" mechanic. (IE: Less than 4 people alive in the lane. IE DED BY ADDS!!!)
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  4. #344
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Alaha Vellonnu
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Fun fact: if you go into the Ridorana Lighthouse as a SMN, and your team, including your healers, die often to mechanics, they can have a near-perma brink debuff for every fight. SMN also makes for a good raise bot should your healers continuously be stressed for mp trying to scrape people off the ground and just survive.

    How do I know this? Guess who found out the fun way just now? And guess who lost track of how many times they had to swift+raise in the raid?
    /pdead
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    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  5. #345
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    Dreamsoap's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Jye Greene
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 60
    Got into Meridianum for MSQ, half the party left because it wasn't Prae. That's the only time allotment I had to run it today given the wait to even get in. Thanks, assholes.
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  6. #346
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    Rongway's Avatar
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    It's 2022. Why do we still have whole pages of forum posts telling healers not to regen tanks prepull or telling tanks to click off the regen? A single step 1 AoE under tank stance generates the same enmity as 56 regen ticks on 7 mobs. A single tank ranged weaponskill generates the same enmity as 392 regen ticks on 7 mobs. Leave the regen on and hit the things as you run.
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    Error 3102 Club, Order of the 52nd Hour

  7. #347
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    Anienai's Avatar
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    Anienai Talenca
    World
    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Leave the regen on and hit the things as you run.
    How does no sound?
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    The price of solving everything is everything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

  8. #348
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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Cassius Rex
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    It's 2022. Why do we still have whole pages of forum posts telling healers not to regen tanks prepull or telling tanks to click off the regen? A single step 1 AoE under tank stance generates the same enmity as 56 regen ticks on 7 mobs. A single tank ranged weaponskill generates the same enmity as 392 regen ticks on 7 mobs. Leave the regen on and hit the things as you run.
    And a single server tick can cause mobs that were standing right smack in the middle of your AoE to completely ignore it and go directly for the healer.
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  9. #349
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    Rongway's Avatar
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    And a single server tick can cause mobs that were standing right smack in the middle of your AoE to completely ignore it and go directly for the healer.
    1. The healer will not die from taking a few hits on the way to the stopping point.
    2. The healer can regen themself on the run.
    3. That's what ranged attacks are for.
    (5)
    Error 3102 Club, Order of the 52nd Hour

  10. #350
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    It's 2022. Why do we still have whole pages of forum posts telling healers not to regen tanks prepull or telling tanks to click off the regen? A single step 1 AoE under tank stance generates the same enmity as 56 regen ticks on 7 mobs. A single tank ranged weaponskill generates the same enmity as 392 regen ticks on 7 mobs. Leave the regen on and hit the things as you run.
    It's a minor inconvenience at best, but it can potentially cause some issues if things go sideways somehow. I would never recommend applying Regen before a pull to any healer. Thankfully with GNB I have my own HoT, so it's not much of a problem to begin with for me. Even if a regen is thrown at me, my own sort of negates the enmity factor.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 03-03-2022 at 10:08 AM.

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