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  1. #331
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheremia View Post
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    This read is giving me ulcers.

    In my experience, that sort of situation tend to be an actual botting, double boxing, or the infamous meme couple.
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  2. #332
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    Cheremia's Avatar
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    Awashio Sazanami
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    IMood
    Right? When you know a class a bit, you... sometimes when you watch people do... whatever they are doing, you just.... oof. But they usually do way more than the dancer did. Both of them were really bad... trust me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    This read is giving me ulcers.

    In my experience, that sort of situation tend to be an actual botting, double boxing, or the infamous meme couple.
    Whatever it was, i would never give my new friends a DOUBLE jump and then NOT force them to practice.
    Dungeons are so easy to digest...
    60/70 dungeons are good for practice but woe is me.

    People that justs ay easy tips are the bad guy, but i'm not gonna take that, not a bad guy!
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  3. #333
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    Dreamsoap's Avatar
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    Jye Greene
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    Malboro
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheremia View Post
    [...] Why would somebody not help if you are clearly struggling, just because "i didnt ask for it". You didn't, but knowing what better to do is bad WHY?
    I really also dislike this mindset. Please help me when i'm struggling, even if i dont ask for it.
    Jesus, this entire thing is why striking dummies exist. Don't get your friend a skip and then put them into normal content if they clearly struggle with even that.
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  4. #334
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    Wolfsbane706's Avatar
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    Kaplan Zereort
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    Marilith
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    Summoner Lv 82
    Had a Perfect Legend trio in leveling roulette a few nights ago. I was SGE and the dungeon was Sirensong Sea. I got the impression they may have bought their titles/clears/whatever because they apparently didn't know how Sage works. I got accused of being a bot after we wiped to a very large group of trash (admittedly due to my own mixing up of Druochole/Ixochole) after the DRK tank popped Living Dead. We wiped again on the last big pull before the final boss. Granted both were probably my fault for thinking Kardia heals and the occasional shield could keep a tank alive but the "Are you a bot" comment was a little rude and uncalled for.
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    Kaplan Zereort, the Forever Penniless
    Meredith Cross, the BunBun Tank
    Himeko Murata, the Pantsless HealerGreen DPS

  5. #335
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    Cheremia's Avatar
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    Awashio Sazanami
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamsoap View Post
    Jesus, this entire thing is why striking dummies exist. Don't get your friend a skip and then put them into normal content if they clearly struggle with even that.
    Thing is, for me, a casual (i do extremes sometimes if i'm not lazy, am lazy a lot), i would say the Nier raids are on the higher end of casual content.

    The nier raids are just not casual friendly and i actually feel bad for the dancer to be thrown in there, they were super confused, i had a lot time to watch them (healer vision be blessed sometimes).

    I still don't think i was rude, but vehemently hating on help is such a weird thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfsbane706 View Post
    Had a Perfect Legend trio in leveling roulette a few nights ago. I was SGE and the dungeon was Sirensong Sea. I got the impression they may have bought their titles/clears/whatever because they apparently didn't know how Sage works. I got accused of being a bot after we wiped to a very large group of trash (admittedly due to my own mixing up of Druochole/Ixochole) after the DRK tank popped Living Dead. We wiped again on the last big pull before the final boss. Granted both were probably my fault for thinking Kardia heals and the occasional shield could keep a tank alive but the "Are you a bot" comment was a little rude and uncalled for.
    Sage can struggle a bit for bigger pulls in lower dungeons.
    The moment Kerachole gets a regen, things are very nice.

    Never forget that Kerachole and Taurochole do not stack, lol

    Usually do kerachole and physis at the start of a pull when the tank is done with grabbing all adds, then Taurochole after kerachole is done to the tank.

    Always keep the tank targeted as Sch/sage/whm, they all 3 can do that.

    First time i played sage in Dohn Meg, i struggled with my skills still, too. And i have healers leveled, i just suck at Sch and am more reactive healer than proactive. But once you manage, you'll be fine.
    Don't let them get to you, it feels bad to know it IS partly your fault, but it actually makes you learn. Change skills on your hotbar if you always click the wrong one first.
    Come back stronger than you were before lol
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    Last edited by Cheremia; 03-01-2022 at 05:53 AM.

  6. #336
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    funkman's Avatar
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    Miqo'te Bob
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    Exodus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    8 years playing, I finally came across something funny enough that I felt I could share with TftDF - a bizarre wipe scenario I have never seen, even when this raid was new:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHbb84OUnjs

    sorry it's just a link, I can't figure out how to embed a video...
    also sorry if this is old news, like I said, I've not seen this since I started lol
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  7. #337
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    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Oh, the Atomos wipe on LotA. I've seen that once before, though it has been a while.
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  8. #338
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    Shibi's Avatar
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by funkman View Post
    8 years playing, I finally came across something funny enough that I felt I could share with TftDF - a bizarre wipe scenario I have never seen, even when this raid was new:
    I count 4 on the pad and 2 at the boss. Sprout tank seems to die under the onslaught and the M-DPS there is just circling and attacking the boss while the adds stay full health. Eventually to charge.



    Purple tethers are a mechanic from the second dungeon in the game. Sigh.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 03-01-2022 at 04:20 PM. Reason: Blurred the name
    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  9. #339
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    Curisu's Avatar
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    Chryden Speakel
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Yesterday I was leading a BA run.
    We reached the second last boss, AV without much trouble.

    I've done callouts for this fight already hundreds of time's, so it should be all good.
    Then I simply forget the 2nd mechanics and kill a bunch of people by not calling out the save side.
    8+ player died, 3 permanent.

    At the end I got my 2nd ever AV minion drop.
    After 100+ kills... My 2nd minion, the pull i killed a bunch of people.

    That proofes it that only bad players have luck with loot and good rolls.
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    Last edited by Curisu; 03-01-2022 at 05:29 PM.

  10. #340
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    DontReadThis's Avatar
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    Bare Bear
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    Midgardsormr
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Queued into mentor roulette as sage and got a 32-min in-progress dead ends.
    I loaded expecting them to have maybe wiped on the 2nd boss due to people stacking circles.
    Nope, it was worse than that.
    They were still at the first boss... after 32 minutes...
    Well, we fight the boss and kill it without any trouble, so now I'm confused as to how the dungeon could have been taking so long.
    We take the teleporter to the next area, and the tank (DRK) immediately says he'll be pulling small.
    He stops after the first pack and proceeds to use his 1-2-3 combo + unmend spam. No AOE combos.
    This continues through the entire run, with a few stragglers running around and hitting us while the tank grabs everything individually with unmend.
    Also look at his MP bar and notice it's full the whole time. That means he is not using his ogcd aoe and he is not using TBN...
    I'm not sure if he was even using mitigation, but it wouldn't have surprised me if he wasn't

    Being the nice person I am, I decided not to say anything and to just let my disappointment fester and rot me from the inside.
    Gave the commendation to the RDM mentor who also had to suffer though that run.
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