Increase penalty for people leaving roulettes

[Ruby_Bloodydusk]

This problem seems to be getting worse and it's seriously getting on my nerves at this point. It used to just be Castrum but now I just see people leaving rouls left and right. This is especially painful when you're queued up as a DPS and basically your entire party leaves. Now you're effectively sitting in queue all over again because someone didn't like the hand they were given on something literally called "roulette." Crank up that penalty time to like 6 hours or something when the leave meets certain conditions. I and so many others are getting really, really tired of having time wasted or slowed down because these babies aren't getting what they want. I only have so much time in my day and I don't want to spend it basically being punished for what someone else is doing. Better yet stick all the leavers with each other so they can enjoy each others' presence exlusively.

[WrenElessedil]

Not gonna happen. It'd be nice to have a harsher punishment for those people, but it would also harshly punish the people who drop for legitimate reasons.

[IdowhatIwant]

This problem seems to be getting worse and it's seriously getting on my nerves at this point. It used to just be Castrum but now I just see people leaving rouls left and right. This is especially painful when you're queued up as a DPS and basically your entire party leaves. Now you're effectively sitting in queue all over again because someone didn't like the hand they were given on something literally called "roulette." Crank up that penalty time to like 6 hours or something when the leave meets certain conditions. I and so many others are getting really, really tired of having time wasted or slowed down because these babies aren't getting what they want. I only have so much time in my day and I don't want to spend it basically being punished for what someone else is doing. Better yet stick all the leavers with each other so they can enjoy each others' presence exlusively.

You will get trust soon. Your complaints have been heard and the devs are wasting resources to address them. Thank you.

[Padudu]

I kinda wish that trusts weren't the answer to everything when it comes to roulette and whatnot. I like queing with peeps, don't really like the feel of playing a single player game in a MMO so I never even bothered with the trust system at all. While yeah I dislike people mass leaving immediately after popping into the dungeon and it's not my business to know as to why, it's still lame af that it happens.

[Thi]

I kinda wish that trusts weren't the answer to everything when it comes to roulette and whatnot. I like queing with peeps, don't really like the feel of playing a single player game in a MMO so I never even bothered with the trust system at all. While yeah I dislike people mass leaving immediately after popping into the dungeon and it's not my business to know as to why, it's still lame af that it happens.

The key with trusts is they have to be worse than the other players or everyone will use them instead. Right now that is the case here, but just barely because of how bad a sizeable chunk of this games players are.

What will kill the game is if Trusts become decent enough to rival an OKish player.

A good example of this is Guild Wars 1. When it came out it had AI player fill-ins called Henchmen that were not bad, but played just above what was required of them. Then towards the end they added Heroes, which were customizable ai companions that you geared and setup their build. Some builds the AI played better than a player could... so you never took another player with you.

[IdowhatIwant]

The key with trusts is they have to be worse than the other players or everyone will use them instead. Right now that is the case here, but just barely because of how bad a sizeable chunk of this games players are.

What will kill the game is if Trusts become decent enough to rival an OKish player.

A good example of this is Guild Wars 1. When it came out it had AI player fill-ins called Henchmen that were not bad, but played just above what was required of them. Then towards the end they added Heroes, which were customizable ai companions that you geared and setup their build. Some builds the AI played better than a player could... so you never took another player with you.

All a trust really needs to do is average dps, and mechanics correctly and everything can be cleared with a trust group.

[Kolaina]

This problem seems to be getting worse and it\\'s seriously getting on my nerves at this point. It used to just be Castrum but now I just see people leaving rouls left and right. This is especially painful when you\\'re queued up as a DPS and basically your entire party leaves. Now you\\'re effectively sitting in queue all over again because someone didn\\'t like the hand they were given on something literally called "roulette." Crank up that penalty time to like 6 hours or something when the leave meets certain conditions. I and so many others are getting really, really tired of having time wasted or slowed down because these babies aren\\'t getting what they want. I only have so much time in my day and I don\\'t want to spend it basically being punished for what someone else is doing. Better yet stick all the leavers with each other so they can enjoy each others\\' presence exlusively.

Slow down there tyrant

[LianaThorne]

This problem seems to be getting worse and it's seriously getting on my nerves at this point. It used to just be Castrum but now I just see people leaving rouls left and right. This is especially painful when you're queued up as a DPS and basically your entire party leaves. Now you're effectively sitting in queue all over again because someone didn't like the hand they were given on something literally called "roulette." Crank up that penalty time to like 6 hours or something when the leave meets certain conditions. I and so many others are getting really, really tired of having time wasted or slowed down because these babies aren't getting what they want. I only have so much time in my day and I don't want to spend it basically being punished for what someone else is doing. Better yet stick all the leavers with each other so they can enjoy each others' presence exlusively.

Find some friends and do it with them, wait for Trusts or deal with what we have right now. It's not fair to punish every person that leaves since we don't know what the situation is for them leaving.

[LeonKeyh]

All a trust really needs to do is average dps, and mechanics correctly and everything can be cleared with a trust group.

You'd be surprised. A lot of poor players don't use the Trust because if they die they have to start boss fights over. Someone in NN was saying that they spent 20 minutes on the level 85 dungeon's final boss and finally gave up and asked for a group to be put together. They said "If you mess up more than once it wipes you." I'm not sure what specific mechanism is that difficult that they had problems, but I'm sure that they are not the only player who would rather be carried instead of doing the Trust. The updated AI for some mechanisms also make it so that you need to do a better job of learning rather than just following them around (i.e. first boss of the lvl 87 dungeon, there are a few trust NPCs that basically "teleport"/jump to the correct spot way too late for you to follow.

[TaleraRistain]

You will get trust soon. Your complaints have been heard and the devs are wasting resources to address them. Thank you.

Trusts only queue directly into a specific dungeon. They won't have any effect on the daily roulettes. If the OP is running them for any reason but first-time story completion, they will still need roulettes.

As to the OP, I don't think we need a harsher penalty. 30 minutes is pretty hefty already. If it's too onerous, people will just stop doing that roulette entirely and then queues would get really bad.