“Everything is amazing and no one is happy.”

[IdowhatIwant]

Imo FFXIV is the best game on the market and has my favorite story in gaming, even tho some of the characters might be flawed ( *cough* Y'shtola's lack of development *cough* ) I still think they've done an incredible job at building them into the MSQ especially for a MMO.

My biggest issue with the game is probably the gearing tbh, it's too slow and annoying at times imo.
I especially don't like the tomestone pricing of a lot of stuff ( why do I need two weeks for gloves? I am 10 tomestones off... Why is the weekly cap not at least 500? And also I should be able to buy the upgrade items for tomestones imo. ).
The books should also be able to scale down imo, if I don't need the gear from book 3 for example I should be able to use them to buy stuff that book 1 and 2 can buy too.

One of the unique things about FFXIV is the Jobs and being able to play all of them on the same character, but the gearing doesn't reflect that.
I get having limits so you can't gear up in a single week but at the same time it really sucks when you can't even get one piece a week because your RNG is horrible.
I have some kind of a Savage curse where I only roll either 20-30 or lower it's ridiculous at this point in P2S this week I rolled a 4 and 5.................
I spent a whole week trying to clear P3S through pf too which was a complete nightmare ( not because of the fight, but because of the people ) and I rolled my usual 20-30 on everything doesn't exactly feel that great even if I was happy to FINALLY get the kill.
Imo you should pretty much be guaranteed a piece every week at least, I honestly don't even like the thing with rolling against people it feels very archaic to me and it's just frustrating I don't find it fun at all.
Imo the loot should drop and then you should be allowed to pick, they could still have the books to incentivize people to keep clearing later floors too.

It is designed that way to keep you playing the game and paying for a sub. But I agree, there is no reason why it would take 7 weeks of doing the normal mode raid to get a weapon. Now you can get it from the second savage fight, but not every want to do that content, and not every one wins the token. I would go as far to say that even the token system particularly in Savage raid content is drawn out. I should not have to clear P2S for 2 months to get a piece of gear, I should not have to clear P1S for 1 month to get an accessory But again this is all designed in reality to keep you subbed longer, and to pad out the gearing because the next savage section won't be here until September or something.

[Kolsykol]

It is designed that way to keep you playing the game and paying for a sub. But I agree, there is no reason why it would take 7 weeks of doing the normal mode raid to get a weapon. Now you can get it from the second savage fight, but not every want to do that content, and not every one wins the token. I would go as far to say that even the token system particularly in Savage raid content is drawn out. I should not have to clear P2S for 2 months to get a piece of gear, I should not have to clear P1S for 1 month to get an accessory But again this is all designed in reality to keep you subbed longer, and to pad out the gearing because the next savage section won't be here until September or something.

I remember people got really mad when they made loot personal in Diablo 3, but personally I just find that loot just dropping like in Diablo 2 lead to really toxic behaviour and frustration ( people just waiting for the moment boss dies to port in and take all of it asap ).
It's not really the same with loot rolls but I really don't see the purpose of it.
With mounts etc then alright I guess, altho I'd still prefer it to be personal.
But I think it's just a really outdated thing with gear.

I don't really feel a rush or anything either when I win, I got the mount from the first EX on my first clear after that my luck has basically run out tho and I just keep rolling 20-30 or even lower on almost everything in Savage.
40 is basically high for me at this point.
But when I won it I didn't feel a rush or a lot of excitement, sure I was happy about it but lets just say that I did get a rush out of it.
Does it really outweigh all of the months of frustration when you don't win?
I don't really think so I think that it leads to significantly more frustration and makes it less fun, and in worst case scenarios in statics it can lead to drama.

There would still be risks involved too if you got a guaranteed piece of your choosing, the chests could still drop like they do now but just be personal.
So you could still risk it for one of the later floors and hope that what you want drops or take something early.
I just think you should be guaranteed something at least.

[Caurcas]

In a static loot distribution of savage drops isn't a huge issue. It can get annoying for a tank/healer though as they are given lower priority.

[KageTokage]

I'm plenty willing to accept bigger flaws that would require much more of a longterm effort to address, but there are myriad things that could easily be addressed in the short term if the devs were actually aware of them.

Case in point, we had to deal with the RMT/content selling spam in party finder since its inception and it's only after someone brought it up directly to them in an interview not long before EW that they rather swiftly changed to the ToS to make it actionable.

There is a very tangible disconnect between the devs and the general playerbase that tends to result in the smaller issues being fixed at a snail's pace and only absolutely massive outcry on the forums tends to get noticed at all.

[Absimiliard]

Game's got its flaws, but we're all still here for a reason. If it was really as bad as the forums oft times lead people to believe, I doubt seriously any of us would continue shelling out cash to play it.

[Ryaz]

It really isn't just these forums. You go to any official game forum and it's filled with people criticizing design choices, story, gameplay, etc. Most of the regular forum goers are passionate about the game, but what happens is that in their attempt to fix what they perceive to be flaws, things they don't personally enjoy or simply things they don't like, they tend to get overzealous. The less tactful among us come off as downright disrespectful to the point that you wonder if they do actually like the game. They also tend be short-sighted and focus on how it affects their enjoyment, with others enjoyment not really mattering to them, which is a big point- what are big flaws to some are minor flaws to others or even strengths.

I do appreciate the passion most players have and I understand them wanting to improve what they believe are flaws. I do wish they'd actually give credit where it is due more, but one of our failings as a species is that we're hard-wired to focus on the negative and exacerbate it to the point that it harms out enjoyment of other things.

Enjoyment is subjective, for both story and gameplay. Too many people on forums seem to think it's fact.

[Atelier-Bagur]

It really isn't just these forums. You go to any official game forum and it's filled with people criticizing design choices, story, gameplay, etc. Most of the regular forum goers are passionate about the game, but what happens is that in their attempt to fix what they perceive to be flaws, things they don't personally enjoy or simply things they don't like, they tend to get overzealous. The less tactful among us come off as downright disrespectful to the point that you wonder if they do actually like the game. They also tend be short-sighted and focus on how it affects their enjoyment, with others enjoyment not really mattering to them, which is a big point- what are big flaws to some are minor flaws to others or even strengths.

I do appreciate the passion most players have and I understand them wanting to improve what they believe are flaws. I do wish they'd actually give credit where it is due more, but one of our failings as a species is that we're hard-wired to focus on the negative and exacerbate it to the point that it harms out enjoyment of other things.

Enjoyment is subjective, for both story and gameplay. Too many people on forums seem to think it's fact.

It's sadly just the usual nature of the internet, its a heck a lot easier to be negative or nitpicky than to acknowledge the good. I still find people here voice good feedback in a respectful manner here and there though.

I genuinely still believe that the devs of this game love and care for their game just as much as the players do at the end of the day.

[Tsukino]

All MMO players are huge whiners.

It just kind of happens when people spend so much time doing one thing - you notice things that you consider flaws or shortcomings, and they grate on you and take up a lot of your thoughts compared to the reasons you're playing the game in the first place. Pretty much anyone who complains all the time will still say they like playing overall if they take a step back, otherwise they'd just quit (hence why the "if you hate it so much just quit" responses always fall flat). It's absolutely not unique to MMOs - just think about what dominates your own "shop talk" with whatever you do for work - but MMOs demand so much time that it happens with a huge majority of players compared to other games.

[ReynTime]

No product would ever improve if negative feedback was seen as a bad thing. Most people think the game is nearly perfect. I don't. If the fact there are people being vocal with discontentment towards a product you love bothers you so much, the problem isn't with those people.

There has never been an official game forum that isn’t full of negativity. Reddits are often fine, Twitter is fine, pretty much every website but the official forums is fine. But the forums themselves? Trash fire.

You only say Reddit is fine because it's an echo-chamber. Seeing as you're pretty defensive of the game it makes sense you don't see what's wrong with that. But the fact Reddit and Twitter nurture a safe bubble/echo-chamber culture is a well known objective fact. They're not any better than the forums.

[ZedxKayn]

Such a complete lack of gratitude and level of entitlement have been making me quite annoyed

Paying customers are allowed to voice their criticism, there's no obligation to give the devs gratitude when you're already giving them money, and voicing concern, displeasure or asking for a change in a product you're paying for is not entitlement.