SQE has the Worst boss design in history

[Crasherino]

And also you



Either my reading comprehension are failing me, or it seems you saying "cheese is bad, this taste like cheese, so it's good!".

I don't get what you're trying to say ... do you?


It feels like you're saying the samething, but for reason you think saying it in a more dramatic maner make it different?

- Student A: I studied for the test, so it feels easy.
- Student B: I gave up my life to studying for this test, so it feels easy.

Fact of life: study for test make it easy ...


Also to add something: Dark Soul is not even a good example. The fact you keep using it make me think you're not even aware of some of the old classic. Ninja Gaiden when it was first release on the original Xbox gain "WORLD WIDE" recognition both from players and critic alike, the first boss on normal mode can literally made people throw their controller at the screen. And guess what, hamming hard enough at it and eventually you can still casually beat the same boss even on hard difficulty.


That's is why I said earlier while I feel I somewhat what you want to say, but you're focusing too much on the hyperbole that you seem to forget what you even want to say (like the 2 quotes I made above). Please come back, calm down, and try a more normal, rationalized way to deliver your argument and more people may agree with you?

I'll just repeat my self again I guess, I can't tell if some of you are purposefully failing to read properly and coming up with "funny" or "smart" responses because reading is difficult or what, but here we go again I guess.

I'll stop using Dark Souls then, even though it was literally other people using Dark Souls as the comparison and I responded in kind.

Let's say that I decide to play Lion King on SNES or Sega, I could watch a playthrough to see what every enemy and boss does on the Lion King and still get wrecked for a while until I get the muscle memory down my self, yes that game will become a cakewalk as well after many playthroughs.

The issue I was trying to raise is that I can watch 1 single video for a instance on FF14 on youtube (again, not including ex or savage, but almost all other content in game including things like Bozja critical engagements and possibly even the 1v1s, I've only done 1 so can't comment on the rest) and then proceed to do all the mechanics correctly with very little effort required outside of simply remembering a rather limited number of things, yes I get at this point that memory is some form of skill, but lets say that the memory required to do this particular content is very minimal, unless that content is ex or savage stuff.

[LittleImp]

The issue I was trying to raise is that I can watch 1 single video for a instance on FF14 on youtube (again, not including ex or savage, but almost all other content in game including things like Bozja critical engagements and possibly even the 1v1s, I've only done 1 so can't comment on the rest) and then proceed to do all the mechanics correctly with very little effort required outside of simply remembering a rather limited number of things, yes I get at this point that memory is some form of skill, but lets say that the memory required to do this particular content is very minimal, unless that content is ex or savage stuff.

It's important to realize that though most of the content in the game seems trivial to you, it's often tuned around an audience that is much less skilled, and that the average casual player still finds something like Red Choctober challenging (hence its reputation). If this kind of content was genuinely challenging, you'd be stuck repeatedly wiping to it for hours because of your teammates. This game is meant to mostly be accessible, and that model has been undeniably successful for them. I'd personally like to see more challenging content, but it is what it is. When it comes to casual content, challenge essentially has to be self imposed; It's kind of like speed-running a children's game.

Take a boss like Dawon in Lacus Litore. Sure, killing the boss isn't that hard, but what about doing it on a melee job without dropping a single GCD? There are some fights in this game that require 5-8 minutes of sustained perfect execution, just to ensure that your GCD clock aligns with a specific mechanic in a specific way somewhere else in the fight. These kinds of concepts aren't necessary in casual content, but they can be fun to implement and 'solving' the perfect execution for those fights can help better prepare you for content where it does matter.

[Saraide]

I'll just repeat my self again I guess, I can't tell if some of you are purposefully failing to read properly and coming up with "funny" or "smart" responses because reading is difficult or what, but here we go again I guess.

I'll stop using Dark Souls then, even though it was literally other people using Dark Souls as the comparison and I responded in kind.

Let's say that I decide to play Lion King on SNES or Sega, I could watch a playthrough to see what every enemy and boss does on the Lion King and still get wrecked for a while until I get the muscle memory down my self, yes that game will become a cakewalk as well after many playthroughs.

The issue I was trying to raise is that I can watch 1 single video for a instance on FF14 on youtube (again, not including ex or savage, but almost all other content in game including things like Bozja critical engagements and possibly even the 1v1s, I've only done 1 so can't comment on the rest) and then proceed to do all the mechanics correctly with very little effort required outside of simply remembering a rather limited number of things, yes I get at this point that memory is some form of skill, but lets say that the memory required to do this particular content is very minimal, unless that content is ex or savage stuff.

Everything below extreme is designed so that you can complete it blind. It's intentionally easy. Depending on what content it is there are more or less curve balls but it's generally not punishing. I find it extremely silly to say the game has the worst boss design and just ignore extreme and savage in that assessment. That's where the actual boss design is. Dungeons, alliance raids, normal raids, normal trials and even bozja are intentionally casual because they are there for the story.

[Raven2014]

The issue I was trying to raise is that I can watch 1 single video for a instance on FF14 on youtube (again, not including ex or savage, but almost all other content in game including things like Bozja critical engagements and possibly even the 1v1s, I've only done 1 so can't comment on the rest) and then proceed to do all the mechanics correctly with very little effort required outside of simply remembering a rather limited number of things, yes I get at this point that memory is some form of skill, but lets say that the memory required to do this particular content is very minimal, unless that content is ex or savage stuff.

Ok ... now your argument is making even LESS sense.

You're complaining about difficulty while willfully EXCLUDING the highest tier of contents? You're using Dark Soul as the prime example with it being considered to be the "hardcore" representative of its gerne and complain why the "casual" content of FF14 doesn't hold up? How does that even make any sense or a fair comparison.

And why youtube is even a thing? If you watch a video before trying the content, that's your issue. It's like someone going ahead and spoil all the plot point of a movie/book and then complaining why it doesn't have any surprise by the time they actually go through it.

I think I know your problem now: you're looking at contents that's not supposed to be challenge and and wonder why it's not challenge. Tell you what, go try savage/ex, preferebaly without watching a video or a guide before hand. Last time I check, they're as much part of the game as the casual contents. You can't complain about FF14 being too easy/simple while excluding the harder type of content it has to offer.

I wouldn't call my static have the best player the game has to offer, but they're all triple Legend (except me) so I would say they're at least counted among the more competent side of the players base. We also watched several videos before going in, as well as reviewing footage, and that still take us over a week to get final fight down. Also despite clearing P3S over a month ago, our execution still flop from time to time doing. So to me it seems the game does have what you want, you're simply refusing to look at them.


I don't think the issue here is even about difficulty in general, you're basically asking for what you want, to be where you want, when you want it. Everything else is probably just dressing that argument.

[Stepjam]

The issue I was trying to raise is that I can watch 1 single video for a instance on FF14 on youtube (again, not including ex or savage, but almost all other content in game including things like Bozja critical engagements and possibly even the 1v1s, I've only done 1 so can't comment on the rest) and then proceed to do all the mechanics correctly with very little effort required outside of simply remembering a rather limited number of things, yes I get at this point that memory is some form of skill, but lets say that the memory required to do this particular content is very minimal, unless that content is ex or savage stuff.

The thing is you can do everything sub Extreme difficulty blind without much effort. It's deliberately designed to be accessible to all play levels. Most story difficulty instances can be cleared on your first or second pull easily. So of course if you've already watched a guide before going in, you are going to breeze through it.

Also Lion King was just a really hard game. Outside extreme and up content, XIV isn't designed to be a difficult game. Quite the opposite. Sounds like it's just a difference between what the game is and what you want it to be. Or you could just start running savage content.