Any doubt that the game lacks enough challenge?

[Rokien]

AF is for higher levels.... I think that's where OP is getting at, the af shouldn't be so easy to obtain. I agree.
>walk up chest get af
>walk up chest get af
>walk up chest get af
>get 4-8 random people
>walk up chest get af
>walk up chest get af

[Elexia]

AF was challenging in XI? lul

I don't know when you played, but when we were capped at 55 then 60 it was actually pretty challenging, especially Miser Murphy and that fuc-Shade in Fei`Yin for WHM AF.

[Hayden]

I for one do NOT miss the old


- Fight 100 mobs....maybe get key
- Open chest...don't get AF

- Fight 100 mobs....maybe get key
- Open chest...don't get AF
- Fight 100 mobs....maybe get key
- Open chest...don't get AF
- Fight 100 mobs....maybe get key
- Open chest...don't get AF
- Fight 100 mobs....maybe get key
- Open chest...don't get AF
- Fight 100 mobs....maybe get key
- Open Chest...STILL don't get AF...cry, whine and complain for a wile...try this another 100 times finally GET af

System

[Yumi_Hibiki]

its part of the level progression from now on not some endgame content, its a prerequisite for you being efficient at your job, don't expect AF to be the best gear for your job, its just an awesome looking stepping stone in your gear progression as time goes by and cap will go up.

and of course its easier when the whole server jumps on it at once.

doing the quests at the appropriate level and not getting groups handed to you on a silver platter like now will turn the challenge up quite a notch for future players

[RyuNin]

It's just artifact gear. The game is really unfinished I think

[Gramul]

Should this even be possible? It had been only three days...

I have not played many hours since patch, and I already have two jobs with full AF. And more than half of a third...

R

To be fair, we've had a year and a half to grind to 50.

Besides, there's still achievements to beat, dungeons to crawl, gear to discover, and guild points to spend.

[Petdo]

Oh gosh someone just raise the idea that it's easy because you have 50s class.
Think about new players and face it.

Just think about FFXI.. if you there's no AF quest and all you have todo is to lv to 75
then one day they add AF quest... and you can do it without any problem... that's wasn't SE's fault.

I love the way it is.. FFXI is sometime too much.

[Gramul]

Oh gosh someone just raise the idea that it's easy because you have 50s class.
Think about new players and face it.

Just think about FFXI.. if you there's no AF quest and all you have to do is to lv to 75
then one day they add AF quest... and you can do it without any problem... that's wasn't SE's fault.

I love the way it is.. FFXI is sometime too much.

I'm sorry, are you saying that being above the recommended level is a good thing or it's square's fault for having level 30 quests be for level 30 characters or...I'm not sure I understand your intent.

[Riv]

Well, AF in XI wasn't exactly a challenge to get either unless u count hours of farming for a key drop as hard. AF quests are not supposed to be challenging, it's not like we're fighting some epic boss battle for them.

[Delsus]

The af was designed to be done at the level of the quest, think for a moment if you did af quests on FFXI at the level it was impossible solo, you needed help. But if a 75 came they could solo it all.

People are just rushing through on 50s, go do them at 30,35,40,45 then see if they are that easy.