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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    Then allow me to rephrase. Their is no logical, rational, justified, believable, evidenced reason to believe they could affect Dynamis. Hermes was the only Ancient we know of to effect change on the Elpis flower, and even then he needed Meteion to control it. When Meteion panics and flees, no one save us could hear her cries or find where she went. The other Ancients that know of Dynamis ignore it entirely because of how useless it is to them.

    Being 8/14th rejoined leaves the WoL with roughly 57.14% the aetheric density of their Ancient counterpart. For the rest of the Scions the amount is a straight 50%. That is a significant decrease in aetheric quality. Meteion herself excitedly proclaims we’re like her even with Emet giving us aether to return us to our natural state (or a close approximation).

    All of this points to the one conclusion. We don’t have word of god that this is 100% fact, but come on.
    Yes, and Dynamis is shown to be easy for the WoL to utilize at 57.14% of their original aetheric density. So easy, in fact, that it's simply a natural part of how they fight. If an over half-rejoined Azem can utilize Dynamis to such a great extent without any apparent difficulty, why would we assume a complete Azem would be completely unable to wield it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    I'd actually disagree on this front. Hermes does put forward his view that higher aetheric density prevents easy interaction with entelechies. While they had managed to eliminate most ills in their world, it is clear from Venat's words and even some of the interactions in Amaurot that they were acquainted with it in the past. I'm not aware of emotional toil being a prerequisite to interact with it - they simply capture predominant emotional states. If they did not know suffering for a while before the Final Days, they certainly knew it after, and even then the despair waves could not affect them; it only affected their creations..
    Correct. Hermes does put forward his view that it prevents easy interaction. On this we agree. Ditto for the Ancients having suffered prior to the Final Days, as all people do, and of them becoming well acquainted with suffering after the fact. Where I don't agree is the idea that it is 100% impossible for someone with an Ancient's aetheric density to interact with Dynamis, as this makes little to no sense based on what we've seen of Dynamis thus far. Limited interaction? Certainly, but it zero interaction is stretching it.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 02-20-2022 at 11:32 PM.