Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

[Maltothoris]

Okay...? Play Savage then.

I'm fine with healers being chill for most stuff. If I want a challenge then Savage is more than enough.

Not every encounter has to be a struggle.

You realize even the Savages suffer from this right? They are scripted to a the t in both the timeline and damage itself. Even in week 1 you are dpsing more than you are healing. At best we just want more to do during the downtime. Is that really too much to ask for?

[Atelier-Bagur]

There are things to do when you don't need to heal it's called doing damage. Every healer has a dps toolkit for a reason. I'm loving Sage because it focuses so much on dps and reminds me of when Scholar used to be the same way before it got gutted.

inb4 somebody tells you're stilling doing 1,1,1,1,1 as a Sage.

[QooEr]

I disagree a bit, specifically pertaining to OP. It's still spicy to heal Garuda and Golden Bahamut auto kills you if you go there without planned mit and heals

on one hand, i agree. half of garuda is helios spam from the frictions and what not. the akh morns are quite scary and even primal roulette can feel a little thrilling.

but even then, youre Still spamming stone broil malefic dosis 150 times. i think my ucob clear had 200 malefic casts. its not like ultimate is constant damage and healing for 15 minutes. its a 15 minute fight where theres a couple of 2-3 minute phases where your ogcds cover maybe half the damage instead of all of it.


now im not saying this fight design is Bad, and im not saying they Should make ultimate a 15 minute long heal spam fest. but if its not going to be, please just for the love of god give us more to do in the other 10 minutes when im not healing. i used to like doing ARR dungeons because you had more non-healing buttons to press as a lv 16 conjurer than now as a lv 90 whm. what gives.

[Atelier-Bagur]

on one hand, i agree. half of garuda is helios spam from the frictions and what not. the akh morns are quite scary and even primal roulette can feel a little thrilling.

but even then, youre Still spamming stone broil malefic dosis 150 times. i think my ucob clear had 200 malefic casts. its not like ultimate is constant damage and healing for 15 minutes. its a 15 minute fight where theres a couple of 2-3 minute phases where your ogcds cover maybe half the damage instead of all of it.


now im not saying this fight design is Bad, and im not saying they Should make ultimate a 15 minute long heal spam fest. but if its not going to be, please just for the love of god give us more to do in the other 10 minutes when im not healing. i used to like doing ARR dungeons because you had more non-healing buttons to press as a lv 16 conjurer than now as a lv 90 whm. what gives.

Personally I liked ARR dungeons because they had a bit more substance going on than the set dressing FFXIII esque hallway design of current dungeons. I still like them, but I wish they were more open-ended with various paths or little quirks added in to aid progression. Dont know if you're referring to current healer kit in ARR content or old healer kit in ARR content because healing in level 50 content is boring as heck! Unless its Aurum Vale or Dzmael Darkhold....

[AziraSyuren]

on one hand, i agree. half of garuda is helios spam from the frictions and what not. the akh morns are quite scary and even primal roulette can feel a little thrilling.

but even then, youre Still spamming stone broil malefic dosis 150 times. i think my ucob clear had 200 malefic casts. its not like ultimate is constant damage and healing for 15 minutes. its a 15 minute fight where theres a couple of 2-3 minute phases where your ogcds cover maybe half the damage instead of all of it.


now im not saying this fight design is Bad, and im not saying they Should make ultimate a 15 minute long heal spam fest. but if its not going to be, please just for the love of god give us more to do in the other 10 minutes when im not healing. i used to like doing ARR dungeons because you had more non-healing buttons to press as a lv 16 conjurer than now as a lv 90 whm. what gives.

Did you really though? You only had one more DoT at level 50 than you have now and Shroud of Saints. You also had Fluid Aura, but you were griefing if you actually used it.

I guess you had Cleric Stance back then too? But I don't think anyone actually liked that at the time and only likes it now in retrospect (much like Stormblood DRK).

Healing was always kinda ass outside of HW SCH.

[QooEr]

Dont know if you're referring to current healer kit in ARR content or old healer kit in ARR content because healing in level 50 content is boring as heck! Unless its Aurum Vale or Dzmael Darkhold....

old healer kit in ARR content. im not exaggerating when i say any healer had more stuff to do during downtime (and also less downtime) in sastasha during heavensward.

im not saying we should go back, but surely if those lv 16 newbies could handle aero, stone, fluid aura, maybe a cross classed thunder.... why did aero iii suddenly become too much to handle in shadowbringers? a fresh lv 30 scholar could handle energy drain, bio, bio ii, miasma... but suddenly in shadowbringers lv 80 healers will have panic attacks if they have more than just bio and broil? yeah right

[SeverianLyonesse]

inb4 somebody tells you're stilling doing 1,1,1,1,1 as a Sage.

Second this. Sage is a step in the right direction, encouraging uptime of doing *something* in between heals. But spamming dosis is boring, and I have definitely noticed that when I am not healing (which is frequent) I am quite bored.

[QooEr]

Did you really though? You only had one more DoT at level 50 than you have now and Shroud of Saints. You also had Fluid Aura, but you were griefing if you actually used it.

I guess you had Cleric Stance back then too? But I don't think anyone actually liked that at the time and only likes it now in retrospect (much like Stormblood DRK).

Healing was always kinda ass outside of HW SCH.

"just one more dot at lv 50" isnt that much and its still more than a lv 90 whm.

[OskarXCI]

as if ultimates were really any different.


check a log–any log– from ANY ultimate. even gray logs have each healer casting their dps spell like 140 times at the very least.


the only ultimate that really kind of tests healers is TEA, and thats only for the first 5 minutes of the fight. the other two ultimates are potency and gear crept to hell and back and dont present much challenge anymore. what then? wait for dragonsong ultimate?

If you say it like that, unsub and go play something else.

[QooEr]

If you say it like that, unsub and go play something else.

you say it like im not subbed just for bis and just waiting for ultimate lol. dont even log in cuz its not fun outside of reclears anymore