Time to expand a little on my comments about SE needing to hire a healer designer.

[MintnHoney]

I enjoy healing it's a lot of responsibility and stress at the same time. You are underplaying it

I'm sorry to be your "that guy," but, considering the number of people who feel the exact opposite way, it seems that you may just be a bit over-sensitive to the stress of/and the responsibility of healers. It's there, absolutely, but it's not exactly compelling anymore when everyone else can do your job for you and render you obsolete for both fun and function.

[Recon1o6]

I'm sorry to be your "that guy," but, considering the number of people who feel the exact opposite way, it seems that you may just be a bit over-sensitive to the stress of/and the responsibility of healers. It's there, absolutely, but it's not exactly compelling anymore when everyone else can do your job for you and render you obsolete for both fun and function.

they are a known troll please ignore them

[Allegor]

The thing is, we still have to do things solo? There are a load of solo duties and quests that require combat. Do they not get...bored? As much as I love the design of those instances, I've almost committed to side levelling some other class next expansion solely just to do those, because oh my god, running around an arena casting a single spell the entire time does not fit any kind of class fantasy I've ever had and really takes me out of the moment. I don't feel like a powerful caster, I feel like an apprentice casting magic missile over and over.

Healer is the only role that actively gets more boring as *other* people's skill level and gear get better, to say nothing of your own, and that feels just...wrong.

Don't be silly, healers in the open world? questing? doing hunts? FATEs? beast tribes?! that's crazy, everyone knows healers belong in the kitc- I mean raids /s

[SpiralMask]

Don't be silly, healers in the open world? questing? doing hunts? FATEs? beast tribes?! that's crazy, everyone knows healers belong in the kitc- I mean raids /s

you mean in ultimates, apparently.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

Why the misinformation? The "new healer [they] came out with," Astrologian, got its answer to Esuna, Exalted Detriment, before SCH could even get Leeches. (It also had its Heavy debuff to compare against Miasma/Miasma II and Stone, Stella, and pretty much other direct equivalent you could think of for capacities shared by SCH and WHM.)

Selene also wasn't particularly "heckled". You were expected to use Whispering Dawn as necessary, as often as per 2 minutes, but Selene's haste wasn't scoffed at and the GCD each way was worth it at the time, especially among SpS-based BLMs. (50% uptime of 20% added Spell Speed was far from insignificant.)


Utility reduction did not result from "abuse", let alone by tanks.


WAR can heal 2000 potency each across self and an ally in 4 GCDs (500 healing ppgcd), but RDM's 350 potency cure makes it the "3rd healer"? A gaggle of Dancers can still better replace a healer than an RDM in most 8-man content, and in the few exceptions, a Warrior still does better than the RDM.

I am just recalling my experiences from back in Heavensward til now, being healer and playing with the general public. It was probaby swiftcast I was thinking of again, but I can't remember now. I just remember it lacked something and I got roasted for it a few times (I could swear it was esuna but again, been a while). *Shrugs*

If DNC and WAR can heal/support better than RDM, I've never seen it in action. It got to the point that RDMs were expected to drop DPS and raise (because that double/triple cast) so healers could manage their mana for more dps. I saw this a lot in Eureka mostly but also in some raids. Not Savage even but just the standard.

And yes. Role skills were abused. By tanks. In Stormblood, if you didnt manage your own enmity with your aggro-dumps/utility skills you could expect a shirk or just not have your aggro picked up. It was mostly idiots and not good players who did this but it was indeed a Thing.

[Hawuhawuu]

If DNC and WAR can heal/support better than RDM, I've never seen it in action. It got to the point that RDMs were expected to drop DPS and raise (because that double/triple cast) so healers could manage their mana for more dps. I saw this a lot in Eureka mostly but also in some raids. Not Savage even but just the standard.

Rdm/prog mage brings the most value for its role to 8 mans because it can raise people easily and not oom the healer. Rdm mages shouldnt break their rotations to raise people when killing an 8 man raid because there rotation falls behind for burst windows. Rdm is the single most valuable job when progging a fight though. Rdm lets you prog faster because you don't wipe as easily to 8 man mechanics because people are dead or healers are oom/don't have swiftcast. Once prog is done no one should die to mechanics, those that do should still be in prog groups which is pf clear parties in a nutshell.

[Ayer2015]

Almost 3 years later and nothing has changed.... sad.

[Pibz]

This fame generates so much money our money that I don’t see why they can’t have dedicated designers to jobs. There is really no reason why especially when the healer player base has been neglected for so long.

Because this game is a cash cow where they try to do the bare minimum and extract whatever they can out of it. Always has been. Welcome to the reality of SE's poor business practices. It's also the reason the current fad will die, people will come to terms with reality sooner or later.

[SaberMaxwell]

Almost 3 years later and nothing has changed.... sad.

For real. /10char

[rewd]

Wish granted. They will hire a healer designer and replace them when they get "too good".