"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[LittleImp]

Tell me how to gap close ahead of the jobs I listed when I have no enemy to target. There's a reason I specifically listed those three jobs out of them all. I was reminded a smileton run where I never outsped or outran a reaper because of that. Granted, Smileton's mob clusters are fairly close so I was only behind by like, five seconds every time we encountered a pack. Can't say the same for some other instances where clusters are pretty well spaced from one another.

Sounds like you're not using sprint correctly or going afk at the start of the dungeon. A sprinting character can cover 15y in around 1 second, so it isn't possible for someone to gain a 5 second lead only using Hell's Ingress one time. I've probably done over 100 runs of Smileton at this point, and this just isn't an actual problem, let alone a common one

[Deveryn]

I've kindly asked people not to run ahead of me when tanking. I had one person actually go along with it (after they got themselves wrecked). They wait til they get to the exit to post a little snide comment and lmao before exiting. Who's the real child here?

I try to make your life easier by taking the hits, you can return the favor by letting me do that.

I had another instance, where I wasn't the tank. I was bard and this sam wanted to pull ahead of the healer and tank, who were both new to the zone (Dead Ends). He got wrecked once and it didn't stop him. He even early pulled the final boss, but the tank decided to grab aggro before the buster. We had some mishaps on the first and last fights. I offered help when I spotted what was wrong. The sam decided to mouth off to them and got themself kicked. I offered my advice and we cleared on the next pull.

YPYT isn't little energy. It's just a more polite way of saying don't be a ****.

[Colt47]

"You pull, you tank"

Full Blue Mage party all runs in with flaming underpants.

[MistakeNot]

If a DPS or healer pulls in front of you as a tank, refusing to grab aggro and watching them die (or not; sometimes the healer or DPS can survive easily) is just petty. It's basically a temper tantrum. It's an "I gotta teach them a lesson" sorta attitude that is frankly kinda cringe.

That's just my opinion! Tanks shouldn't do this!

Don't be silly! It has nothing to do with being petty or teaching them a lesson.
If a healer or DPS insists on pulling, then obviously they WANT to tank. So it is just polite to let them live their tank dream, rather than rudely yank aggro away from them.

[KageTokage]

You'd think people would catch on to the TC's bait after who knows how many topics, but....

[Pyro2hell3]

part of being a good tank is being to tell how big of pull your current party can handle. some party's just can't handle wall to wall pulls.

[Reinha]

part of being a good tank is being to tell how big of pull your current party can handle. some party's just can't handle wall to wall pulls.

Don't think the party can handle it? Take the mobs and prove yourself correct. If turning off tank stance is the only way to force a wipe then the party could have handled it.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Imo if you want to pull mobs at your pace, play as a tank. If you aren't a tank stay in your lane

[Espon]

Another bait post by Skiros, but one I agree with.

As a tank, it is my job to tank. If a DPS or healer is running ahead of me and pulling then I need to grab aggro off them. I may not like what they're doing because it's making my job more difficult, but I just need to grin and bear it so the run ends as quickly as possible. Once the dungeon is complete, I no longer have to deal with the person. There's 2 other people in the dungeon besides me and who's pulling; I should not be inconveniencing them because I don't like someone else's actions.

This is something that rarely occurs to me, however, since I pull wall-to-wall. Only time I slow down is if the healer is severely undergeared. If someone else is pulling first, it's because they're sprinting ahead of me.

[Denji]

Another bait post by Skiros, but one I agree with.

As a tank, it is my job to tank. If a DPS or healer is running ahead of me and pulling then I need to grab aggro off them. I may not like what they're doing because it's making my job more difficult, but I just need to grin and bear it so the run ends as quickly as possible. Once the dungeon is complete, I no longer have to deal with the person. There's 2 other people in the dungeon besides me and who's pulling; I should not be inconveniencing them because I don't like someone else's actions.

This is something that rarely occurs to me, however, since I pull wall-to-wall. Only time I slow down is if the healer is severely undergeared. If someone else is pulling first, it's because they're sprinting ahead of me.

This post is a post based of personal experience and not one that is written with any thought of being in someone else's shoes.

It lacks any sort of nod toward people who may be new to tanking, whether it be tanking in general, tanking in ffxiv or simply running a dungeon for the first time.