"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[Kolsykol]

Tbh I think a lot of people assume it's an ego problem to a point it becomes ridiculous.
I've had a Healer before get mad at me because I told DPS to stop pulling because the Healer was afk ( which they were ).
I told them I was going to leave if they kept pulling.
The first thing the Healer said to me after being afk for 10 minutes without saying a word and with wipes with the DPS continuing to run and pull wall to wall was '' then leave ''.

I left.
People just assume the Tank has an ego problem or is toxic without actually considering or giving any thought to why the Tank doesn't want DPS to pull.
To the point that even a Healer who afks without saying anything will give the Tank shit for noticing and waiting.

You also have to remember that older MMOs that punished this sort of behavior had VERY steep penalties for dying (losing gear, loss of hours of exp, money, ect). This game punishes you by slapping your armor a bit and lowering it's durability. Sadly, this sort of trend is happening because dying is no longer an issue outside of loss of time and a weakness that drops fairly fast.

Dying is a waste of time, and we're more likely to die if the DPS pulls.

[Denji]

waste of time

And this is why you don't pull if you're not the tank or haven't previously discussed it with the tank/party.

Even if you think the tank is going slow, you're going to slow things down even more when they stop to scold you. Is it worth trying to save 20 seconds on a pull if the tank stops the entire party in its tracks for 5-10 minutes to argue with you?

[Saraide]

And this is why you don't pull if you're not the tank or haven't previously discussed it with the tank/party.

Even if you think the tank is going slow, you're going to slow things down even more when they stop to scold you. Is it worth trying to save 20 seconds on a pull if the tank stops the entire party in its tracks for 5-10 minutes to argue with you?

That's a silly idea, why would by default assume that every tank is a petty child?

Tbh I think a lot of people assume it's an ego problem to a point it becomes ridiculous.
I've had a Healer before get mad at me because I told DPS to stop pulling because the Healer was afk ( which they were ).
I told them I was going to leave if they kept pulling.
The first thing the Healer said to me after being afk for 10 minutes without saying a word and with wipes with the DPS continuing to run and pull wall to wall was '' then leave ''.

I left.
People just assume the Tank has an ego problem or is toxic without actually considering or giving any thought to why the Tank doesn't want DPS to pull.
To the point that even a Healer who afks without saying anything will give the Tank shit for noticing and waiting.



Dying is a waste of time, and we're more likely to die if the DPS pulls.

This only works under the assumption that everyone else can avoid getting aggro on the extra mobs which is just not possible as healer. But if you attempt a spicy pull without one of the dps it is guaranteed to fail, where as if you played normally and get aggro you have a decent chance of succeeding.

[Denji]

That's a silly idea, why would by default assume that every tank is a petty child?

Please don't put words in my mouth. I only allow food and men after a good date to go in there.

For real though, I'm not. I'm saying that the potential risk of halting the party and wasting everyone's time isn't worth the few seconds you save by pulling.