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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    In my experience 9 out of 10 times when DPS pulls it's not justified at all and they're clearly not paying attention to anything.
    Usually why the tank is slow is because the healer is lagging behind or is afk.

    Like I'll be Tanking and I'll stop because I notice the Healer went afk ( whether they said that they did or didn't ).
    And the DPS just jumps around like a moron and goes yolo on the mobs.
    In the end of the day pulling is part of the Tanks job and it always has been in MMO's and for good reason.
    There's almost never a good reason for the DPS to pull and the Tank has the best feel for what the comfort level of the Healer ( and themselves ) is.
    The DPS has no clue about this and shouldn't be screwing around with that.
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    Raoabolic's Avatar
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    In the end of the day pulling is part of the Tanks job and it always has been in MMO's and for good reason.
    There's almost never a good reason for the DPS to pull and the Tank has the best feel for what the comfort level of the Healer ( and themselves ) is.
    The DPS has no clue about this and shouldn't be screwing around with that.
    You also have to remember that older MMOs that punished this sort of behavior had VERY steep penalties for dying (losing gear, loss of hours of exp, money, ect). This game punishes you by slapping your armor a bit and lowering it's durability. Sadly, this sort of trend is happening because dying is no longer an issue outside of loss of time and a weakness that drops fairly fast.
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    In the end of the day pulling is part of the Tanks job and it always has been in MMO's and for good reason.
    There's almost never a good reason for the DPS to pull and the Tank has the best feel for what the comfort level of the Healer ( and themselves ) is.
    The DPS has no clue about this and shouldn't be screwing around with that.
    Always? The ones I've played before XIV, the puller was usually a ranged dps or support and the tank would stay at camp or something similar.
    If you have to stop for some reason, say something to the others and 9 out of 10 times they'll stop.

    Troll fake-concernposting aside, this topic does keep coming up and frankly YPYT is a blackhole of small pp energy that sucks all the fun out of dungeons and boss fights. The tank's job in XIV is to hold aggro but if they get their ego hurt that someone ran ahead of them (why aren't you sprinting?) and decide to flip off stance or stand around and mpk, they're in the wrong.

    Also OP: what exactly is your sh*tposting schedule? And how long can we expect you to fart up the forums? Until the next raid tier or what?
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