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  1. #421
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    Hezzlocks's Avatar
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    Hezz Ackerman
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    Ravana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakurady View Post
    Good. I don't want to see any more characters sacrificing themselves for the Warrior of Light.
    Yes, just as Alisae made us promise in SB, no heroic sacrifices!

    Honestly main character deaths is a very delicate technique to attempt. You absolutely shouldn't just hamfist in someone dying because teh epic storiez, no. It has to be handled very carefully or else the whole thing ends up a colossal waste.

    If not properly handled, a death can be severely cheapened by either being obvious said character was going to die (EW would have suffered this as there were main character death red flags everywhere, which is probably why some people were disappointed it never happened), or it ends up being distasteful because it came out of left field, worst case scenario it feels disingenuous because it was a character death purely for the sake of character death, a cheap and unwarranted grab at emotional impact.

    Of course, fakeout deaths are often no better, especially when there's so many of them. But at least they don't have permanence. A character actually dying in a poorly conceived way is not just bad storytelling, it's also a colossal waste of that characters potential, because if they are subsequently brought back to try to fix that mistake, that then also cheapens *all* deaths in general.

    I'm not gonna say there should never be main character deaths, but one should not *expect* them to happen. They need to be used sparingly and appropriately. Unless a character death is going to be a slam dunk, I'd rather they not try at all.
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  2. #422
    Player Conundrum's Avatar
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    Marius De'romanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartlove42 View Post
    Ysayle's death was not careless or bad writing at all. The reason they stopped killing off main characters after Heavensward is because everyone kept getting mad at the writers for it, at a certain point they decided their mental health is more important than receiving hate mail from some some neckbeard who's custom body pillow character got killed off in game.
    And there it is.

    Shitty writing is actually the players fault. You heard it here first folks.

    EDIT: And frankly I don't believe there were any credible threats anyway. Certain people always claim they were threatened with all manner of nasty things on the internet but never go to the police nor do they produce any even slightly credible evidence of it. It's just a convenient way to deflect criticism.
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    Last edited by Conundrum; 02-13-2022 at 09:31 AM.

  3. #423
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    Fenris Pendragon
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    The current state of ARR is little more than a visual novel now that all battle content has little to no difficulty, and new players deserve a completely revamped and improved starter experience.
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  4. #424
    Player Conundrum's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    The current state of ARR is little more than a visual novel now that all battle content has little to no difficulty, and new players deserve a completely revamped and improved starter experience.
    Most new players aren't looking a for a "hard" experience no matter how often the "content should be hard" contingent repeats it.

    If people want hard content, it's there...even in ARR.
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  5. #425
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    Most new players aren't looking a for a "hard" experience no matter how often the "content should be hard" contingent repeats it.

    If people want hard content, it's there...even in ARR.
    I'm not even talking about hard, that isn't what I'm asking for. There is quite literally nothing to do in ARR fights except press 1 button and let the other players clear it for you. My starter experience had a learning curve and by the time I hit my first dungeon I had a lot more than just a basic 1-2-3 combo, if even that for some of todays jobs. You would not be able to sell me ARR nowadays-and I'm speaking as someone who started this game day 1 that it launched.
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    Авейонд-сны


  6. #426
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    Aurikai's Avatar
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    Auri'kai Starfall
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    Faerie
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    Bard Lv 90
    The game has a blacklist system from the 1980s.
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  7. #427
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    I'm not even talking about hard, that isn't what I'm asking for. There is quite literally nothing to do in ARR fights except press 1 button and let the other players clear it for you. My starter experience had a learning curve and by the time I hit my first dungeon I had a lot more than just a basic 1-2-3 combo, if even that for some of todays jobs. You would not be able to sell me ARR nowadays-and I'm speaking as someone who started this game day 1 that it launched.
    Yeah, this on itself may count as another hot take, but there's a big difference between "hard" and "you literally have to be afk or trolling to fail this" - XIV may be a story-driven game, but it's still a game, not a movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  8. #428
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    Mizu Kun
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Stormblood has the best overall music tracks.
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  9. #429
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Coeurl
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    I'm not even talking about hard, that isn't what I'm asking for. There is quite literally nothing to do in ARR fights except press 1 button and let the other players clear it for you. My starter experience had a learning curve and by the time I hit my first dungeon I had a lot more than just a basic 1-2-3 combo, if even that for some of todays jobs. You would not be able to sell me ARR nowadays-and I'm speaking as someone who started this game day 1 that it launched.
    You don't understand, there was button bloat. :^) /s
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  10. #430
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawr18 View Post
    Stormblood has the best overall music tracks.
    Yeah, Revolutions is badass.
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