Praise for RDM design

[Marxel]

My only wish for the next expansion is for RDM’s melee phase to get flashier. I want rose petals, flying swords and big red slashies.

[Gruntler]

Well done Devs-- can't really think of any way to improve on the class at the moment. Thank you.

1) All RDM AF sets are valid. The correct answer to 'which is the best set/boots/hat' is always 'Yes.'

2) Every time I've said "I can't think of a way to improve on this" they've found a way to improve on it, in a way that does not comprimise what I enjoyed in the expansion before.

But RDM is peak *chef's kiss*

My only wish for the next expansion is for RDM’s melee phase to get flashier. I want rose petals, flying swords and big red slashies.

Zwerchau can stay forever though.

[Marxel]

I’m also curious how others use Acceleration. Do you use it before Veraero/Verthunder or only when you get a Verfire/Verstone proc? I’ve been using it before I go into Veraero/Verthunder and if I don’t get a proc, use it on Jolt.

[Azuri]

I’m also curious how others use Acceleration. Do you use it before Veraero/Verthunder or only when you get a Verfire/Verstone proc? I’ve been using it before I go into Veraero/Verthunder and if I don’t get a proc, use it on Jolt.

You should probably re-read Acceleration's description. It literally only works on Verthunder, Veraero, and Impact. And does nothing for Jolt. It also sounds like you are trying to weave it between hardcast and dualcast which is simply an awful idea that clips your GCD and doesn't even do anything - your longcast spell will be instant due to dualcast and Acceleration will be completely ignored.

[Gruntler]

I’m also curious how others use Acceleration. Do you use it before Veraero/Verthunder or only when you get a Verfire/Verstone proc? I’ve been using it before I go into Veraero/Verthunder and if I don’t get a proc, use it on Jolt.

Well ignoring it not working this way:

I use it on verthunder III/veraero III for movement, and to realign my ogcds so that they come up between spellcasts, to try to prevent drift (admittedly sometimes muscle memory kicks in and I just use it anyways because lawl VERAERO)

In AoE situations I'll try to bank them a bit, because the damage buff on Impact is too strong to ignore, so misewell chuck a couple under Embolden when it's up.

But, even if Acceleration's insta worked on Jolt/Verstone/Verfire, you'd only *ever* use Acceleration (or Swiftcast) on Verthunder III or Veraero III or Impact anyways, because there is value of getting an instant VAT3/Imp (your entire kit is built around doing it after all, right?).

[Marxel]

Well ignoring it not working this way:

I use it on verthunder III/veraero III for movement, and to realign my ogcds so that they come up between spellcasts, to try to prevent drift (admittedly sometimes muscle memory kicks in and I just use it anyways because lawl VERAERO)

In AoE situations I'll try to bank them a bit, because the damage buff on Impact is too strong to ignore, so misewell chuck a couple under Embolden when it's up.

But, even if Acceleration's insta worked on Jolt/Verstone/Verfire, you'd only *ever* use Acceleration (or Swiftcast) on Verthunder III or Veraero III or Impact anyways, because there is value of getting an instant VAT3/Imp (your entire kit is built around doing it after all, right?).

Okay I guess I’m confused. In boss fights I start with Manafication/Embolden to immediately go into melee and buff everyone. After, I use Acceleration then Jolt into Veraero or Verthunder. It still makes Verfire/Verstone instant, though? I’m not sure if I’m using it optimally. What’s an example of a rotation?

[Mesarthim]

In a situation with a countdown timer I do:

Hardcast verthunder (5 seconds left on countdown), dualcasted veraero, swiftcast, acceleration, verthunder, tincture (can ignore this if you aren't raiding), verthunder again, embolden, manafication, then start your melee combo and weave in fleche and contre sixte between each swing, following up with the movement sword skills between each flare/holy/scorch/resolution.

Otherwise in the average run where someone pulls without countdowns or it's a dungeon where no one does a countdown then I just wing it, go into my melee phase with embolden and manafication. Acceleration is best used as a movement tool and to proc verfire or verstone (use acceleration on thunder or aero, in dungeon pulls you can use it on impact since it gets a damage buff under acceleration). You can sit on one stack of acceleration (just don't let it sit at 2 for too long) if you need it to move or to proc fire/stone as jolt is used only if you have no other options to start with.

Acceleration got changed from shadowbringers since it now instantly casts the 3 affected spells, verthunder, Veraero, and Impact.

Edit: In situations where dualcast and acceleration are both up, it uses one of them, not both. So you'll still instant cast again due to the other buff being present for the next relevant spell.

[Gruntler]

Okay I guess I’m confused. In boss fights I start with Manafication/Embolden to immediately go into melee and buff everyone.

You're not too far off, but on a raid boss encounter you'll want to give yourself a bit of time to pot first, which is where Mesarthim's opener goes. Without a counter, you're fine, though that assumes its up because you should be building to 10/10 and using that on trash too. But this isn't bad thinkthink

After, I use Acceleration then Jolt into Veraero or Verthunder.

Okay, so I'm assuming you're used to old RDM. Acceleration now acts as swiftcast+(guaranteed proc on VT3/VA3 or potency buff on Impact). Now this isn't necessarily 'bad' to do, but understand what this gives you. The priority for your instacast buffs will be Acceleration>Dualcast>Swiftcast. So the jolt here gives you dualcast as normal, but the Verthunder will consume your Acceleration. You'll still have dualcast, and if you follow up with a Verfire/Verstone, you'll end up instantcasting it, which gives you no gains. Then your musclememory kicks in and you hit VTA3 and now you're hardcasting a longspell.

Instead, to keep this, when you acceleration, think 'this is swiftcast' and just fire off your Ver3undaero.

It still makes Verfire/Verstone instant, though? I’m not sure if I’m using it optimally. What’s an example of a rotation?

Acceleration does not make Verfire/Verstone instant. Even if it did, you don't gain by doing that. You always want to use Acceleration/Swiftcast/Dualcasts on spells with longer than 2.5 second cast times--Verthunder III/Veraero III/Impact/Verraise. Instant-casting a shortcast spell doesn't set you ahead, you want to cast the beefier spell!

[localman]

The clear gameplay-technical problem of the Red Mage is its conspicuous way of making its magic seem as if it only serves to serve the melee, only that this is then served too little and offers too little variety.
The magic itself doesn't really serve as an independent stylistic device, neither visually nor in terms of content.
It is a mana battery that is supposed to serve the much cooler melee, but itself remains pale.

The Red Mage needs a change right here. Or you rebuild him in such a way that he fills his mana through the nimble graceful fencing melee, which is much easier to integrate from the gameplay and then goes into the magic mode and there completely detached from the melee, until possibly, on a transition back to melee, could release his magic. However, this should then also be better matched to the overall design of a fencing red mage and not seem so alien.

Then the Red Mage will be even better than it already is in terms of fun gameplay.

Currently, the magic section is rather a dragging tedious affair and the melee is still missing another chain that is divided into black and white magic.

[Mesarthim]

The clear gameplay-technical problem of the Red Mage is its conspicuous way of making its magic seem as if it only serves to serve the melee, only that this is then served too little and offers too little variety.
The magic itself doesn't really serve as an independent stylistic device, neither visually nor in terms of content.
It is a mana battery that is supposed to serve the much cooler melee, but itself remains pale.

The Red Mage needs a change right here. Or you rebuild him in such a way that he fills his mana through the nimble graceful fencing melee, which is much easier to integrate from the gameplay and then goes into the magic mode and there completely detached from the melee, until possibly, on a transition back to melee, could release his magic. However, this should then also be better matched to the overall design of a fencing red mage and not seem so alien.

Then the Red Mage will be even better than it already is in terms of fun gameplay.

Currently, the magic section is rather a dragging tedious affair and the melee is still missing another chain that is divided into black and white magic.

As people are pointing out in your new thread, please do not post feedback for Red Mage when you haven't even leveled it.