Alliance Raids and players not waiting for Cutscene Watchers

[MilkieTea]

LOL. Wow, the stalking is real today.

The world doesn't revolve around you, Mr. "People can't have chronic illness in my DF runs so I'll report them when they leave!!!"

I legit didn't know you were you til I checked back into this thread LMAO

[Cheremia]

I'm even showing my sort of "petty"... "sure i am", after telling them that there are way better options than regening everybody and cure 2ing for free cure, it wasn't even much more before, just asking to why.
My "here it is with cure 1" is not being petty since they told me i'm wrong with knowing how freecure works and they were indeed fishing for it the whole raid. Didnt work for them (obviously), worked for me.
They also told our Nin that her dps was low? Which it wasnt.




bad quality, had to pull that one from a video.

So yes, people definitely WANT to kick you with basically telling them facts and then SHOWING them the facts undeniably with cure 1 popping freecure.
Not much missing other than me giving all the options other than cure2 ing for mp, since they ran out of mp by doing so and healing what doesnt need to be healed, too.

So yes, as said, people are definitely just willing to kick others. They were with friends too.

So it's not that weird. And you can be like "look at her for the slightly sarcastic answer, shes so bad, get her!"

Wont derail the thread more.

Edit: okay, heres more, sorry for bad quality

[NanaWiloh]

The world doesn't revolve around you, Mr. "People can't have chronic illness in my DF runs so I'll report them when they leave!!!"

I legit didn't know you were you til I checked back into this thread LMAO

Whoa Deja vu lol Saw your forum name and think I saw someone with the same name here on Lamia last night.

[MilkieTea]

Whoa Deja vu lol Saw your forum name and think I saw someone with the same name here on Lamia last night.

Oh my! That's always fun lol.

[ForteNightshade]

I assure you were we in a 4 man, which is the scenario you mentioned, and I am the tank, and you pull as a dps, nobody is going to defend you, nobody is going to be mad at me for letting you die. I'm also sure nobody would oppose if I initiated a vote-kick which odds are I would. To suggest you, knowingly, doing something toxic, being responded to predictably, then painting the people you were toxic towards as the bad guys and suggesting they be banned (and I have seen you in other threads on this topic suggest cutscene watchers are breaking TOS for watching cutscenes after you pulled without warning or consent (and not even as the tank) because they were too busy watching a cutscene to help). This is the literal definition of being passive aggressive, I'd go further and argue this is just straight up anti-social behavior.

In an alliance raid? Sure you'll probably get away with it. You might not, though. But in dungeon? No, I assure you you will be running in alone and recieving no heals or taunting off, and odds are end up vote-kicked. It doesn't matter if you don't cause a wipe, you're displaying an extremely toxic attitude and utter lack of respect for other players which I have zero tolerance or patience for.

If you were my tank and deliberately let the DPS die because they were slightly ahead and grabbed mobs simply to get the ball rolling, I'd initiate the Vote Kick on you long before them because you're the only actually griefing in this hypothetical. The DRG running ahead to get Hi-Jump on CD so they can go into Nastrond immediately once the mobs are all gathered up didn't cause the wipe. In fact, they were attempting to make things easier on both of us by killing mobs faster. You, on the other hand, did. Granted, in this scenario, I'd slap a heal on them to ensure they live. It's actually quite satisfying when a tank throws a tantrum over someone else pulling the same mob they were already going to pull a second faster only for the DPS and healer to promptly show how unnecessary a small pulling tank actually is.

Don't cite toxicity and a lack of respect then proceed to act toxic and disrespectful yourself. It really doesn't help your argument.

[MolotovDrago]

Usually people are very patient in that regard, but my first time doing Deltascape v1.0 I watched the intro cutscene and I had a guy say something along the lines "thank you for wasting everyone's time". I told him where to go and I advise anyone who get some impatient prat like that to tell them off and put them on the blacklist, even considering a report if you feel they went too far.

[NanaWiloh]

I'm even showing my sort of "petty"... "sure i am", after telling them that there are way better options than regening everybody and cure 2ing for free cure, it wasn't even much more before, just asking to why.
My "here it is with cure 1" is not being petty since they told me i'm wrong with knowing how freecure works and they were indeed fishing for it the whole raid. Didnt work for them (obviously), worked for me.
They also told our Nin that her dps was low? Which it wasnt.




bad quality, had to pull that one from a video.

So yes, people definitely WANT to kick you with basically telling them facts and then SHOWING them the facts undeniably with cure 1 popping freecure.
Not much missing other than me giving all the options other than cure2 ing for mp, since they ran out of mp by doing so and healing what doesnt need to be healed, too.

So yes, as said, people are definitely just willing to kick others. They were with friends too.

So it's not that weird. And you can be like "look at her for the slightly sarcastic answer, shes so bad, get her!"

Wont derail the thread more.

Edit: okay, heres more, sorry for bad quality

With how Whm mp usage is right now using cure 2 to fish for free cure is just asking for problems. Using cure 2 without free cure is equally asking for issues. Not shocked that there are whm running doing this though.

[Kolaina]

Usually people are very patient in that regard, but my first time doing Deltascape v1.0 I watched the intro cutscene and I had a guy say something along the lines "thank you for wasting everyone's time". I told him where to go and I advise anyone who get some impatient prat like that to tell them off and put them on the blacklist, even considering a report if you feel they went too far.

I mean yeah. That’s rude. I don’t think it’s worth a report. People are far too report happy. Though when I get Cape Westwind I have a habit of saying “Zzzzz” when I recall how the cutscene is 3x as long as the fight itself

[Cheremia]

With how Whm mp usage is right now using cure 2 to fish for free cure is just asking for problems. Using cure 2 without free cure is equally asking for issues. Not shocked that there are whm running doing this though.

Was in Shadowbringers. They were constantly low on mp, while i wasn't. Whm can run low on mp if they dont use Lucid, even back then. I barely used thin air except for emergencies, i raised a billion people in that raid.
Asked them multiple times why Cure 2, got told for freecure, told them that ain't it.
They also regened me even tho i barely had damage and all that.
They were at fault for their low mp and told me they fish for free cure (with cure 2) for that.
Freecure is a trap many people fall into.

But that Whm tried to get freecure with cure 2! TWO! Not one, two. And thats not even what pops Freecure, if they tell me i'm wrong, i'm spamming cure1 to show my fellow whm, that it pops freecure.

Was just showing that the friends of them said that in chat because they wanted me gone over LITERALLY showing them that cure pops freecure, not 2.


SO to all these people in this thread. While yes, sometimes, people have something to hide. But i don't, i'm not afraid of this.
If it was for them, i would be gone from that raid. Even though i was the healer carrying that one.

My point of "i'm new" standing for a quick indicator of waiting for cutscenes except they skip them, still stands (to not derail it too much now FURTHER... help).

[wereotter]

1 person doesn't get to hold up 23 other people in Crystal Tower, same applies for other raids that are years old. You can watch the cutscene and remain invulnerable as long as you do not exit out early, and aren't missing much in later raids because the last actual pre-final boss cutscene is an unskipable transition.

Puppet's Bunker is already a long headache of a raid so I cannot blame anyone who pulls the last boss early, seeing as by that point everyone is desperate to just get out of there.

The problem with Puppet's Bunker, and I speak from having this happen to me, is that with the way the area is built and coded, if you're ported in, which is likely to happen form watching a cutscene, you're ported into a death wall and immediately die. Sure this is a problem the developers should fix so the location you get teleported to isn't immediate death, but until they do, it's not that hard to take a small break, have a sip of water, and just wait for someone so they don't die before they even get to try to start the fight.