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  1. #11
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    Archwizard's Avatar
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    Archwizard Drake
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I'm not sure why you're asking the community if we should "expect" it.
    The responses you will get are either "They sure need one," or "No, and it's copium to think otherwise."

    You really shouldn't "expect" anything with regards to job changes, just as a general rule of thumb; that's how you build disappointment and resentment.

    We'll find out if DRK's getting touched in the Live Letter. They usually announce a couple jobs they're focusing on in Part 1 (which would be the one on the 18th), but don't usually give specifics on job changes until Part 2 (probably middle of next month). If they mention any specifically next week (outside of a leading question), but avoid talking about DRK, then set your expectations very low. If they avoid talking about any at all, then have patience for Part 2.
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  2. #12
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    Sqwall Lionheart
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiaoki View Post
    Rework? Oh, God, no. Reworks are not done mid expansion.

    They will do small revamps mid expansion for severely under performing Jobs. So, minor functionality changes and additions on top of potency buffs.

    But, with Dark Knights doing well in raids good luck convincing Yoshi-P that they are under performing.
    *cough* monk 5.0-5.4 *cough*
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  3. #13
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    Kan Himaa
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    I'm pretty sure they are aware of dark knight issues. There's no way they can't be aware of them after all the threads on dark knights on the forums. I'm betting the JP forums are similar.
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Phantom
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    JP forum does complain quite a bit about DRK too.
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    Aychelle Tripler
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    Raiden
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    You really shouldn't "expect" anything with regards to job changes, just as a general rule of thumb; that's how you build disappointment and resentment.
    What he said.
    You can hope for one, but don't take it for granted that you will get one.
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  6. #16
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    As used to be drk main. SHB to EW evolution is crap. the job feels clunky due to salted earth having a combo (this ability should be deleted on this expansion because ground aoe are always bad), having too much ogcd fluff(salted earth combo is the problem but rest is fine), no bloodweapon fix(9.9 secs boy), living dead as no changes when other healers outside of WHM don't have a benediction of its own as cross class skill (that whould be great if they added that to all healers while whm get something in exchange of this skill as cross class), dungeon pulls sucks as drk no sustain compare to other tanks(oblitation could be better lets be real), oblitation could be a evolution for dark mind and some sort of sustain relate with magic skill but nope a skill who take on my hotbar who feels weak compare to TBN. But rest seem fine IMO.
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  7. #17
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    Balar Avagnar
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    *cough* monk 5.0-5.4 *cough*
    Was not a rework, it was a revamp.

    6.0 Summoner is a rework.
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  8. #18
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    It'll be rather interesting this go around because JP is also complaining about the same thing now. Quite often they defended Living Dead and TBN but have since done a complete 180. Not to mention, Sage being straight up unable to heal LD in dungeons for the most part is and DRK getting more of a showcase in Savage has, ironically, put a much larger spotlight on its flaws.

    Will it be enough for them to finally acknowledge the issues? I suppose will find out. If not... well, I think it's safe to say DRK will never get changed.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 02-10-2022 at 03:52 AM.
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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    Vortuna Solaris
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    Miner Lv 90
    And YoshiP wonders why the devs are being criticized.
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  10. #20
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Phantom
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Remember the difference between criticism and insults too.
    The devs deserve the criticism for the design of DRK (or tanking in general, or MCH) and being stern is perfectly reasonnable. Please be firm and straight to the point.
    Just remember to not just be waxing insults with or without substance behind it. Calling them lazy or incompetent doesn't address any issue nor is actually constructive.
    Anyway, mini-rant is over.
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