Alliance Raids and players not waiting for Cutscene Watchers

[Absimiliard]

Considering that the Ivalice raids are already something most of the player-base actively avoids, I can only imagine the response to having to sit through those cutscenes again.

[BigHoffie]

„Respect for me, not for thee“, huh?

Why do you play an mmo instad of singleplayer, where you dont have to deal with NEW people or close to new people with a strained timeline? You know, where you can take your own time?
Not intended to be an „just quit lol“ thing. But doing duties with no extra time seems silly to me.

Why should this newby over there watch an excessive guide on normal content if they want to go blind and enjoy it as is?
I hope you don‘t die a lot in content you are new to, then. Since that would be wasting everybodies time.

As said, there is nothing like experiencing new (to you) content for the first time.
It took me forever to get a hang if the black/white mechanic on red girl because my brain works badly with so many visual effects.

This game has a story.
Raids have a story.
Boss cutscenes are part of that.

You play the mmo without any time to spare, not others.

There will always be new people.
You were new to duties once, too.
People play games for enjoyment, not to be rushed by people that have no time and want to zoom through roulettes in no time flat.

Why do you play an mmo instead of a singleplayer, where you don't have to worry about OTHER people or how they value their time? You know, where you can take your ownt time?
Not intended to a a "just quit lol" thing. But doing duties and holding other people hostage seems silly to me

This game has a story(and other players)
Raids have a story(and 23 other players)
Boss cutscenes are part of that(and not one person here has said you should skip them if you don't want to)

You play the mmo without consideration of others

People play games for enjoyment, and if that enjoyment differs from yours, that doesnt make you right.

[DBriggs304]

Unfortunately, we've gotten more of this recently. The community used to watch the cutscenes for the most part when they saw a sprout in the group.

[Beytran70]

Unfortunately, we've gotten more of this recently. The community used to watch the cutscenes for the most part when they saw a sprout in the group.

More and more WoW refugees and players from other MMOs where speed was the name of the game and they didn't wait for anyone, ever. Or salty veteran players with a hidden grudge against newcomers or that don't remember their own days as sprouts.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

What's this got to do with WoW?

Anyhow, nothing new. If people wait, they wait. If people early pull, just watch the CS and join in after they finish it. If people pressuring or even bullying said newcomer to skip then it's entirely a different matter altogether that can be reported and move on. It's not the end of the world.

[ForteNightshade]

You're already compensated for it with tomes and wondrous tails retries, just wait for them and don't be that guy.

No you aren't. Unless you mean the bonus poetics for there being first timers. In which case, most veteran players don't have any use for poetics. So it's hardly an incentive. Time wise though, you're ironically punished for getting anything above Void Ark given the higher level raids take significantly longer even without any cut scenes. Hence why the whole naked queuing happens.

Either way, people aren't going to wait outside of the relevant patches this content releases in. While it may sucks, this has been the norm since 24 mans started. Sometimes you'll have people hold off pulling. Other times you won't. Unless Prae, it isn't like watching the cut scene will have you zone into a dead boss. So just enjoy it and pop in afterwards.

More and more WoW refugees and players from other MMOs where speed was the name of the game and they didn't wait for anyone, ever. Or salty veteran players with a hidden grudge against newcomers or that don't remember their own days as sprouts.

My dude, people waited more for the Nier cut scenes than they ever did for Ivalice or Shadow of Mhach, ya know, the two raid series that released long before the big WoW exodus. This has nothing whatsoever to do with an influx of new players but rather long time players simply not caring to wait.

[AbysmalDuck]

I can only hope they start implementing a Prae type approach and make the cutscenes unskippable. People in here act like it is the end of the world. You were new once and I know that some people out there have mental disorders such as OCD where missing part of the fight would cause them stress. That person would need to do the fight again to get the full experience. Because of your impatience, now they have to run a 30-45 minute raid again because you are too selfish to take your 2 minute bio break in your jar during the CS.

[Cheremia]

Why do you play an mmo instead of a singleplayer, where you don't have to worry about OTHER people or how they value their time? You know, where you can take your ownt time?
Not intended to a a "just quit lol" thing. But doing duties and holding other people hostage seems silly to me

This game has a story(and other players)
Raids have a story(and 23 other players)
Boss cutscenes are part of that(and not one person here has said you should skip them if you don't want to)

You play the mmo without consideration of others

People play games for enjoyment, and if that enjoyment differs from yours, that doesnt make you right.

Why not answer me instead?

You chose to play a group based game for what purpose if you can't wait for a person to be new?
Why does a new person have to bend to the other person because they chose to not week 1 stuff and just happen to start playing later?

How people with little time use their time is their business, of course, not going to tell them not to play.
But if they CAN NOT possibly EVER take more time than usual for an instance without the new people wasting their precious time, then they shouldnt do long roulettes to begin with.
You dont need to do alliance or leveling roulettes, which usually take the longest. Especially since the Paradigms Cutscene isnt even THAT long, it just FEELS long. It's almost 2 minutes.

You also can use the PF.

Can't wait for getting that back at me "new people also could use the pf"
Yes, could, goes both ways.

I love how you go the way and saying you're being held hostage when you chose to do random roulettes with random people in an mmo thats more popular than ever and has more new people than ever. Who's being held hostage by who if you chose to go to your abducter in the first place?
"respect for me, not for thee"

[Azuri]

The problem simply arises from the fact that SE is trying to funnel players into content they have no interest in doing with rewards. Would be intersting to see all roulette rewards turned off for a couple of weeks. It would be a much healthier population doing content with no Castrum leavers, cutscene skippers, dungeon wall-to-wallers, CT cheesers and so on. Or maybe it will serve as a gentle reminder to all those "newbies" who demanded veterans' blood for even daring to think about not fully and unequivocally accommodating them that 30-minute queues for every instanced piece of content aren't fun.

[Hikuro_Kenshi]

The simple fact of the matter is that not doing anything about it will piss a lot of people off, but actually doing something about it will ALSO piss a lot of people off.

Probably the reason why the devs never acknowledge this issue.