Gearing up is bad

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

No you just don't or you probably can't read english.

His point is that you seem to think the gear is the end, while it's just a means to an end. Gear means nothing in this game. It hasn't since gordias killed the raiding scene by requiring the gear to clear the tier, which basically prevented all but the hardcore from clearing within the tiers relevancy. Now gear is just a soft wall, the incredibly skilled raiders can clear without gear, while those of lesser skill (like my group) gear up to clear.

You are simply the wrong target for this game outside the first month of a tiers release.


It's not a game centered on gear and difficult raids. It has a breadth of content.


I play this game way too much, and I still have not enough time to do everything I want in it. I still have loads of content I haven't completed.

[Waterscape]

His point is that you seem to think the gear is the end, while it's just a means to an end. Gear means nothing in this game. It hasn't since gordias killed the raiding scene by requiring the gear to clear the tier, which basically prevented all but the hardcore from clearing within the tiers relevancy. Now gear is just a soft wall, the incredibly skilled raiders can clear without gear, while those of lesser skill (like my group) gear up to clear.

You are simply the wrong target for this game outside the first month of a tiers release.


It's not a game centered on gear and difficult raids. It has a breadth of content.


I play this game way too much, and I still have not enough time to do everything I want in it. I still have loads of content I haven't completed.

We are talking about gearing in this thread that is the whole point.

[Asiragan]

How the gear itself is designed is a problem in FFXIV. All the gears are just stats sticks with no intersting effect by themselves, making them basically boring.

Meaning that you can't really put new ways to get equipment as it is now. Because if you want players to be appealed to your new content, you would need the gear to be at an ilvl higher than crafted gear, and equivalent or slightly lower than tome gear. Basically, it's pointless.

Also, with such a vertical design, the gear you get will be obsolete by the new raid patch anyway.

However, if you put an effect on some items, you could make other contents relevant, without sacrificing the gearing progression.
For instance, let's say a ring have the effect "Your Adloquium will now have a 100% critical chance" obtainable with hunt marks. ilvl won't matters as much, and if scholars fiund this ring interesting, they will now have something else to do other than expert roulette.

And while I don't agree with everything Xenosys said in his video, it's obvious that the gearing process in FFXIV is seriously beginning to feel outdated. And that's especially true for a game that advertise itself as a "Play all class in one character" while making it so inconvenient to gear multiple jobs.
With that said, we can also talk how melee dps have 3 differents gear set when the caster only have 1. To make gearing easier for main job and alt, fusing the Maiming, Striking and Scouting gear would already eases thing quite a bit. Altough for the last one, we could argue that it can be mixid with the Aiming gear.

The system is not broken by any means, at least not yet, but it can be much better than that.

Also, I don't think chasing BiS is an optional content. FFXIV is first and foremost an RPG. Getting better gear is partly what makes RPG interesting, weither you are a casual player who get to play 1 hour a week, or a hardcore who spent 8+ hours a day IG.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

We are talking about gearing in this thread that is the whole point.

Yes, and the truth is gearing doesn't matter.

People clear with crafted gear every tier. So how long it takes to get bis is irrelevant, outside the draw for people getting gear (and the crutch it provides)

[Raoabolic]

The majority of this thread should just be moved to the "hot takes" thread at this point. This is comedy gold!

[Waterscape]

Yes, and the truth is gearing doesn't matter.

People clear with crafted gear every tier. So how long it takes to get bis is irrelevant, outside the draw for people getting gear (and the crutch it provides)

well okay yes that is why its bad ...

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

well okay yes that is why its bad ...

So... Are you asking for them to remove gearing because it's a crutch? Or do you just want to be able to gear in a month and quit until the next tier 8 months later?

I'm confused on your request lol. You already said you only log in for raid.

[Waterscape]

well okay yes that is why its bad ...

but like you said tho there is group that do need gear to clear the savage tier and i help them everyday with my main job but i just get bored to play just one job when there is literally 19 jobs rn in this game

The end of a patch is when its the most fun because you can play all the jobs that you want with good gear and go help other peoples clear the raid tier.

[Waterscape]

So... Are you asking for them to remove gearing because it's a crutch? Or do you just want to be able to gear in a month and quit until the next tier 8 months later?

I'm confused on your request lol. You already said you only log in for raid.

I want to be able to gear other job faster because only playing one job for months when there is so many jobs in this game is boring and it shouldn't be like that , maybe back in Heavensward and stormblood when we had less jobs it was okay but not anymore.

[MilkieTea]

I want to be able to gear other job faster because only playing one job for months when there is so many jobs in this game is boring and it shouldn't be like that , maybe back in Heavensward and stormblood when we had less jobs it was okay but not anymore.

And you can gear your other jobs. i580 is the minimum amount required to clear current savage content. You can buy that off the marketboard for like 500k a set now. Go forth, and get your BiS!