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    Quote Originally Posted by Waliel View Post
    The pirates in Sastasha keep at least some of them for themselves. If you poke around the dungeon a bit, you'll notice that the random NPCs in there are all women, are kept in a cell when not needed, and some have... let's say interesting speech bubbles: https://i.imgur.com/3NP8qxc.png. The enemies in there also have a line of aggro dialogue to take the women alive. As a side note, they seem to have very specific tastes because all the women are either Mi'qote or Lalafells.

    There's also a FATE chain in, I want to say South Shroud, about a Coeurl King who basically has a harem of slaves he keeps in check with blackmail. I think the postmoogle quests had one dedicated to that as well.
    the moogle quest did and it even shows he emotionally and mentally manipulates them to keep them in his harem but making them feel he is the only one who will accept them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    See, when I saw this thread topic, I thought we were gonna be talking about slavery. You know, the thing that confirmably exists in multiple nations we've visited (I've counted at least four, more if you count 'Garlemald' and 'Garlemald-occupied nations' separately).

    Something we have to remember is that the game setting is not 21st century Earth, and does not share its morality. It's very nebulous exactly what level of comparative development the game world is in, since over the course of the game we see nations based on things ranging from 19th century Japan, Crusades-era Vatican City, to a 17th century mythical city, to a mashup of the Roman Empire, Nazi Germany and Cold War Eastern Europe. But all that can really be confirmed is that FFXIV's world hasn't caught up to us. That's just fine for a story, but it does mean that they haven't gotten to modern cultural mores like 'completely outlawing outright slave trading' and 'completely understanding that torture is bad'.

    They're getting there, though. Limsa is several centuries ahead of the curve in recognition of the sins of colonialism.

    I think a lot of people miss this point alot because it is common for people to place the morality of our world over the morality of a alternate world to a point it is almost expect by certain people that a game world follows the same morality laws as our own world.

    However, we should never place our world's morality laws into another world because standards of that world maybe far different from our own.

    It is actually part of FF14 story itself that different cultures have different morality laws which often leads to the conflict WoL gets involves in. Where one culture may see something as wrong, another may see it as right. We face this alot in the storyline and of course it does trigger certain people when the culture of a specific group clash with our world's belief of right and wrong. However, that is part of the reason why we should never place our own world's standards of right and wrong too much into this game since the culture of that civilization maybe have clashing beliefs with our own world's beliefs.

    At the sametime it is important to be aware of our own world's beliefs because the different beliefs of right and wrong in each civilization is a reflection of our world's past cultures. It shows how different things were back then compared to what the standard of right and wrong is now. Not to mention learn to understand why the culture was like that is also important since what they define as right and wrong may have been the result of who was in power, religion, social norms of that time, and acts of self survival during a harsher times.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 02-08-2022 at 02:58 PM.