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    The way I see it, you're not supposed to get Astronomy gear too quick, and you say we have 19 jobs but that's 4 roles (EDIT: and 7 gear sets, point still stands). Could they up the amount of tomes we can carry? Sure, honestly I wouldn't be against it, but gearing up isn't that tedious unless you feel you need Astronomy gear for everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veranolth View Post
    The way I see it, you're not supposed to get Astronomy gear too quick, and you say we have 19 jobs but that's 4 roles, so 4 gear sets. At least you don't need a set of gear PER job, only per role which makes gearing easier. Could they up the amount of tomes we can carry? Sure, honestly I wouldn't be against it, but gearing up isn't that tedious unless you feel you need Astronomy gear for everything.
    Fending, Maiming, Scouting, Striking, Casting, Healing, Aiming. That's 7. And jobs like Warrior use a melds, and gear from the other tanks. But do have some overlap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonicat View Post
    Fending, Maiming, Scouting, Striking, Casting, Healing, Aiming. That's 7. And jobs like Warrior use a melds, and gear from the other tanks. But do have some overlap.
    I stand corrected, but still if you really feel like you have to gear up everything, that's not the game's fault.

    As for melds you can just change melds if you really are dedicated to main the other jobs in that role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veranolth View Post
    I stand corrected, but still if you really feel like you have to gear up everything, that's not the game's fault.
    Part of the fun for me and many others, is pushing numbers to the absolute max. Can't do that when you have crafted gear. It's not so much as i feel i have too, but more or less.. That its how i enjoy the game. Playing different jobs, keeps the game feeling fresh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    So you basically have no solution to make crafted gear not be completely pointless for most players.
    I agree that something should be done about making BiS gear meaningful, but all of your solutions range from "Pointless" to "Might work with some adjustments".
    Crafted gear wouldn't be useless even if you geared faster.
    It's still pre-Savage BiS.
    I don't really think there's necessarily '' alts '', one of the core features of this game is supposed to be that you can play all Jobs on one character and the way gearing works does contradict that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slayer25c View Post
    U don't need to be fully gear do anything in this game so no they don't need to make it easier for u gear up

    Trying to make it about '' oh well you don't NEED the gear to do the content '' is a bit silly too imo, very few things enter the territory of '' NEED ''.
    You don't NEED food buffs either but most people still expect you to have it because whether something is '' NEEDED '' isn't how we actually judge these things in reality.

    Edit: Also no one is really asking for it to be easier what people are asking for is for it to be less tedious and to be able to gear up and play different Jobs.
    You still have to clear the content so how exactly is it easier?
    If you've cleared all four floors then you've cleared them and you still need to clear them for the gear.
    Something being tedious doesn't mean it's difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Crafted gear wouldn't be useless even if you geared faster.
    It's still pre-Savage BiS.
    I don't really think there's necessarily '' alts '', one of the core features of this game is supposed to be that you can play all Jobs on one character and the way gearing works does contradict that.
    Except OP wants crafted gear to be the same iLvl as the previous tier's BiS. That would also make it the same iLvl as gear bought with Astronomy tomestones (uncapped with the new tier). Like I had already explained, people pushing for week 1/2 clears wouldn't bother with crafted gear, while people not doing savage would just get the Astronomy gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Except OP wants crafted gear to be the same iLvl as the previous tier's BiS. That would also make it the same iLvl as gear bought with Astronomy tomestones (uncapped with the new tier). Like I had already explained, people pushing for week 1/2 clears wouldn't bother with crafted gear, while people not doing savage would just get the Astronomy gear.
    And i still want this. Crafted gear was meant as a catchup mechanic of gear, if you didn't clear the previous tier. No? So you could start the new tier fresh. It should not be out doing the previous tier bis so fast. You know who would bother with the crafted gear? Those who didn't get the tier cleared. You know who else. Those who have BIS so they can mix and match for better stat pools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Crafted gear wouldn't be useless even if you geared faster.
    It's still pre-Savage BiS.
    I don't really think there's necessarily '' alts '', one of the core features of this game is supposed to be that you can play all Jobs on one character and the way gearing works does contradict that.




    Trying to make it about '' oh well you don't NEED the gear to do the content '' is a bit silly too imo, very few things enter the territory of '' NEED ''.
    You don't NEED food buffs either but most people still expect you to have it because whether something is '' NEEDED '' isn't how we actually judge these things in reality.

    Edit: Also no one is really asking for it to be easier what people are asking for is for it to be less tedious and to be able to gear up and play different Jobs.
    You still have to clear the content so how exactly is it easier?
    If you've cleared all four floors then you've cleared them and you still need to clear them for the gear.
    Something being tedious doesn't mean it's difficult.
    You're one of the few people in this thread, that I feel like actually read the post.. and understands.
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