Quote Originally Posted by tokinokanatae View Post
"Seeing hope" is a poetic way to say "saved by a third party out of the blue." It is a pity that--judging by her own recollection--Venat didn't see fit to extend that sort of "hope" to her people as she strolled past them being attacked, if that is what it takes to make sure people don't succumb to despair.
And yet the people of Palakas Stand did not rally themselves only when Vrtra arrived, they found their own strength.

Simply put I think many are missing the key message here; the issue isn’t that the Ancients or the Sundered were inherently stronger, but that one possessed the means to create an easy solution to their problems that would in turn damn them, while the other is forced to contend with life’s miseries without the easy out. The Sundered are forced to contend with morality, with the inevitability of the end, and in turn come to grapple with despair and meaning in a way the Ancients just couldn’t. Which again, it doesn’t mean their superior at all, they’re just like the Ancients in the vast majority of ways. It’s the mistake of the Ascians to believe that one side need be more worthy to exist.