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  1. #51
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    Seiori's Avatar
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    Sieglinde Hresvelg
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    like MidnightEquinox suggested earlier I think an advance hall of novice would be a good start for most people. I personally think it would be much effective being mandatory, but that's not really a popular opinion lol.
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  2. #52
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    Thi L'iun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiori View Post
    like MidnightEquinox suggested earlier I think an advance hall of novice would be a good start for most people. I personally think it would be much effective being mandatory, but that's not really a popular opinion lol.
    I do agree that an Advanced Hall of Novice should be a thing and mandatory.

    I also feel like you need to be able to clear the SSS Dummy (as poorly tuned as they are) at a minimum before being able to enter its respective savage fight
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  3. #53
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thi View Post
    I do agree that an Advanced Hall of Novice should be a thing and mandatory.

    I also feel like you need to be able to clear the SSS Dummy (as poorly tuned as they are) at a minimum before being able to enter its respective savage fight
    What does savage have to do with Elo? You can already control who's in your savage PF and kick/reform without them if they're a problem.
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    Jennah Arhtima
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    You ARE aware that if SE somehow had an ELO number for everyone, they'd intentionally make sure a very good player was paired with 3 terrible ones in DF dungeons, so that she could carry them?
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    Thi L'iun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennah View Post
    You ARE aware that if SE somehow had an ELO number for everyone, they'd intentionally make sure a very good player was paired with 3 terrible ones in DF dungeons, so that she could carry them?
    Sadly that probably is the truth isn't it.
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    Gotham City
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    ???? Just make a party with friends or out of a discord filled with people of your amazing caliber. Literally just have friends. Why would you-why would anyone...please go make friends.
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    Lil Imp
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    I'm genuinely curious why "Form a premade party" isn't a more reasonable and accessible solution to this supposed 'problem' in comparison to implementing an ELO system into a low-stakes PVE game.
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  8. #58
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    Nitka Avira
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    What does savage have to do with Elo? You can already control who's in your savage PF and kick/reform without them if they're a problem.
    I think that's just a separate suggestion, unrelated to the OP's ELO suggestion.

    I've heard the SSS dummies are very oddly tuned for some classes, though, but I don't see an inherent problem with the idea.
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  9. #59
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    Pure Mallace
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    Siren
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    I would unsub tomorrow if that came to FF14. That is antithetical to everything this MMO stands for or ateast that is what the devs say when they do nothing about ACT and percentiles.
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    Vice Shark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thi View Post
    That's why I stated with the current population of the game.

    I haven't seen a queue longer than 5 minutes as a DPS since Endwalker. I also wouldn't mind a longer queue because you can do other things while you wait. If you get stuck in a 45 minute Dead Ends because the group can't not stand in the bad and die, you are stuck there unless you eat a 30 minute penalty.

    Then you get the plus side of limiting people by ELO in PF and not having to deal with losing hours trying to clear harder content with people who have no business trying it.
    It's great that you have short queues but what about people who don't have that luck? Better yet, what happens during those times where the populace starts to get light a little and certain queues start getting affected as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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