Maybe we should not have new jobs in 7.0

[Jeeqbit]

Dark knight has a whole list of issues I cannot comment on as I am not a main DRK.

DRK doesn't have a whole list of issues, at least not to the point of needing a MCH or SMN scale rework, which it arguably already got. In fact it's pretty good for what it's supposed to be, which is an off-global centric tank where the GCD rotation is not the main focus. Changing Living Dead would be simple but there has been the opportunity to change it for multiple expansions now and SE seems resolved to keep it.

Although it works for what it's supposed to be, it's often a matter of debate whether the lack of GCD focus makes it boring, but I don't think that suddenly means it has a long list of issues. The GCD simplicity can be a good thing in some cases (such as raids where you want to focus on mechanics) and not a good thing (in dungeons where it could get boring).

[Akamadoshi]

DRK doesn't have a whole list of issues, at least not to the point of needing a MCH or SMN scale rework, which it arguably already got. In fact it's pretty good for what it's supposed to be, which is an off-global centric tank where the GCD rotation is not the main focus. Changing Living Dead would be simple but there has been the opportunity to change it for multiple expansions now and SE seems resolved to keep it.

Thank you for your feedback!
I saw videos about DRK's TBN and whatnot, nothing I understood, hence I cannot comment, sorry about it. But I cannot imagine it, living dead in non-WHM... however, I am in JP dc, here, we have many randoms, as we queue savage weeklies, when I had for P3S DRK+SCH+AST, they were easily able, by SCH, Exo, and AST's off CD double heal, in an instance, it is more nuisance than white mage Bene I imagine!

As for MCH, I hoped they do charges, instead! I play with 275+ ping, I do get all the hotshots off, but, sometimes I cannot. and it depends on controller's reaction, or if KB/m, on that. But, like they have done before, sometimes new jobs brings new ideas and gimmicks, making it to change most jobs in certain ways, I look forward and leave up to SE dev team ^^ I think that is where I stand.

[justinhuang]

DRK doesn't have a whole list of issues, at least not to the point of needing a MCH or SMN scale rework, which it arguably already got. In fact it's pretty good for what it's supposed to be, which is an off-global centric tank where the GCD rotation is not the main focus. Changing Living Dead would be simple but there has been the opportunity to change it for multiple expansions now and SE seems resolved to keep it.

Although it works for what it's supposed to be, it's often a matter of debate whether the lack of GCD focus makes it boring, but I don't think that suddenly means it has a long list of issues. The GCD simplicity can be a good thing in some cases (such as raids where you want to focus on mechanics) and not a good thing (in dungeons where it could get boring).

You are right and I agree to some degree. I like the SHB DRK, from my humble opinion, but I think they might move a little too far for number of OGCDs. They can always improve some of them like the new Salted Earth explode on its own if we forget to press, Bloodweapon to 5 stacks.

Shadowbringer is a niche skill but it doesnt bother me. Let say they to delete it and add an enhance edge OGCD, it may satisfy more players actually. What makes some other tanks feel better is their loving CD gets better. For example, GNB heart of stone is amazing for what it is. With the buff in EW, the amazing just got better. Not only it mitigate but it also auto heal on specific heath or heal on expire. PLD enhance sheltron heals and also heals on spell rotation. These kind of enhancement actually feels good to use. It's encourage you to use it correctly.

Currently drk had an oblation that feels meh. It's decent but not blown away. TBN on the other hand gets no change and still tie to dps loss if doesnt break. So, for argument sake, it looks bland compare to other tank.