*Spoilers* Anyone feel joining Emet would have been better

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Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
It is ridiculous, and it absolutely does deserve to be portrayed as such. You can only take offense to such a caricature if you see your own likeness in it.

I think there are times when it can be instructive to look at the arguments around 'what ifs', because it challenges you go back and reread the story, and there will always be details that you miss on a first pass. That can be actually pretty fun especially if the people involved are genuinely interested in the lore (sometimes even if they aren't). What gets really tiresome is when someone starts out with 'Venat killed everything on the planet!' and the next person comes along and says 'Venat sundered everyone without their consent!' Then the first poster realizes that they can add in a bit more punch to their claims and follows up with 'Yeah, yeah! She killed everything on the planet and she didn't even bother to get their consent first!' At which point you have to ask yourself, 'Where's the actual lore discussion in any of this?' You can't hear it for all the angry shouting.

Like many of the others here have said, yer dang right I have a crap ton of issues with people having their world flipped upside down the way Venat did. I have the same issues with the Ascians' multiple genocides, which I have already stated. My biggest issue with #teamhydaelyn is them not being willing to call what Venat did genocide when it was just as much so as the Rejoinings were. It was, and there is no excusing it, it was objectively wrong, in a moral sense, just as much as the rejoinings. Instead of saying "Oh, but she was riigggght in the end" call a spade a spade and admit both sides did some pretty morally screwed up things.