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    Lyth's Avatar
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lurina View Post
    Evidently lot of people in this argument are being quite silly - though this is an official forum for an MMO, so I'm going to guess that at least some are literal kids - but if you create a bizarre caricature based on a generalized impression and apply it to everyone who holds some flavor of opposing perspective to you, the environment will just become even more ridiculous.
    It is ridiculous, and it absolutely does deserve to be portrayed as such. You can only take offense to such a caricature if you see your own likeness in it.

    I think there are times when it can be instructive to look at the arguments around 'what ifs', because it challenges you go back and reread the story, and there will always be details that you miss on a first pass. That can be actually pretty fun especially if the people involved are genuinely interested in the lore (sometimes even if they aren't). What gets really tiresome is when someone starts out with 'Venat killed everything on the planet!' and the next person comes along and says 'Venat sundered everyone without their consent!' Then the first poster realizes that they can add in a bit more punch to their claims and follows up with 'Yeah, yeah! She killed everything on the planet and she didn't even bother to get their consent first!' At which point you have to ask yourself, 'Where's the actual lore discussion in any of this?' You can't hear it for all the angry shouting.
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    Floria Aerinus
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    It is ridiculous, and it absolutely does deserve to be portrayed as such. You can only take offense to such a caricature if you see your own likeness in it.

    I think there are times when it can be instructive to look at the arguments around 'what ifs', because it challenges you go back and reread the story, and there will always be details that you miss on a first pass. That can be actually pretty fun especially if the people involved are genuinely interested in the lore (sometimes even if they aren't). What gets really tiresome is when someone starts out with 'Venat killed everything on the planet!' and the next person comes along and says 'Venat sundered everyone without their consent!' Then the first poster realizes that they can add in a bit more punch to their claims and follows up with 'Yeah, yeah! She killed everything on the planet and she didn't even bother to get their consent first!' At which point you have to ask yourself, 'Where's the actual lore discussion in any of this?' You can't hear it for all the angry shouting.
    I "took offense" to - or rather, was confused by - your strange comment about how I should just quit the game of I want Emet to win, when in fact I don't and have no idea how you even got that idea from my posting. I was just talking about my impression of how his character is intended to be read in that scene.
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