Tank healing is to high

[Navnav]

Warrior doesn't open with Tomohawk anymore, it's useless, Provoke > Heavy Swing is the opener for better raid buff syncing.

LOL i can't...............................

[Absimiliard]

Warrior doesn't open with Tomohawk anymore, it's useless, Provoke > Heavy Swing is the opener for better raid buff syncing.

We have a winner.

[Undeadfire]

LOL i can't...............................

You're more than welcome to laugh, but logs so far have proven true, Warrior de-syncs on the raid buffs if you open Tomohawk on current Skill Speed.

Melees will begin GCDs half way through yours before you can heavy swing, and you want final buffed Infuriate in the window just as they drop off.

[Payadopa]

Give healers tank stances and mitigation. Let WARs trudge behind us and use their throw ability ad nauseam and see how they like it. lol

[Praesul]

Give healers tank stances and mitigation. Let WARs trudge behind us and use their throw ability ad nauseam and see how they like it. lol

Okay, give tanks raid buffs, massive aoe healing, and access to raising.

[Alzinor]

You're more than welcome to laugh, but logs so far have proven true, Warrior de-syncs on the raid buffs if you open Tomohawk on current Skill Speed.

Melees will begin GCDs half way through yours before you can heavy swing, and you want final buffed Infuriate in the window just as they drop off.

even by pulling with tomahawk, i'm synch with raid buff, i dunno what you're talking about. And i roll with 2,50 gcd.
it must be a clipping issue or connection from your side if you can't fully burst inside melee buff window.

as far from what i see, any MT warrior pull with tomahawk on logs, especially when you play with a nin doton prepull in your static, if you pull with provoke which doesn't build enmity, it is a risk a caster or a range take agro in the meanwhile you're waiting for the boss to come close.

But i agree, when you're OT warrior, there is no reason to throw tomahawk as an opener.

[Pibz]

Tank sustainability is a good thing. The problem is we don't have the damage intake to match it.

Having a strong toolkit that rewards you for using it well is more interesting than standing there doing 1, 2, 3 endlessly while the healers throw you an oGCD occasionally. But if bosses just tickle you, there's no purpose for those self-heals. That's the problem.

This, this is honestly more a healer problem than a tank problem. For all the issues tanks have as a role, healers feel like an exercise in pointlessness to play in dungeons nowadays. You're basically stuck spamming literal 2 button rotations as a gimped DPS for a good chunk of the time in trash (why doesnt trash have any significant mechanics either? Why don't they AOE frequently? Why are there no mandatory interrupts/stuns necessary? What's the point of cc abilities in this game exactly?) and 99% of the time in a "boss" fight. that's just depressing to even think about.

Their excuse is that they don't think players are able handle basically anything because it hurts their feefees if they die once in a blue moon in a dungeon but this design choice stopped making any remote sense when they basically added AI ran, impossible to lose "game" option for people who want the game to play itself with no stakes.

[Atreides]

even by pulling with tomahawk, i'm synch with raid buff, i dunno what you're talking about. And i roll with 2,50 gcd.
it must be a clipping issue or connection from your side if you can't fully burst inside melee buff window.

as far from what i see, any MT warrior pull with tomahawk on logs, especially when you play with a nin doton prepull in your static, if you pull with provoke which doesn't build enmity, it is a risk a caster or a range take agro in the meanwhile you're waiting for the boss to come close.

But i agree, when you're OT warrior, there is no reason to throw tomahawk as an opener.

They changed Provoke in ShB, it doesn't just put you 1 above the highest in aggro but builds Enmity aswell, how much I don't know exactly but it's enough to make pulling with provoke work. Thats why it's also very noticable when you tank swap, if your swap partner has no tank stance for voke his lead will be very miniscule.
That being said, the gain for a face pull over tomahawk opener is also very little we're talking about not even single digit percent here. It might make a difference between that 99-100 parse but thats it.

[Sqwall]

Warrior doesn't open with Tomohawk anymore, it's useless, Provoke > Heavy Swing is the opener for better raid buff syncing.

.....this makes me scratch my head more then the buff to Tomahawk....I can't slow blink slow enough to this comment.

[Alzinor]

They changed Provoke in ShB, it doesn't just put you 1 above the highest in aggro but builds Enmity aswell, how much I don't know exactly but it's enough to make pulling with provoke work. Thats why it's also very noticable when you tank swap, if your swap partner has no tank stance for voke his lead will be very miniscule.
That being said, the gain for a face pull over tomahawk opener is also very little we're talking about not even single digit percent here. It might make a difference between that 99-100 parse but thats it.

reminder for myself : read changelog i totally missed the part where they changed voke enmity generation.

TBF it won't change the fact i'll still pull with tomahawk since i have a nin, 150 potency is better than loosing a gcd waiting for the boss.

mb