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    Bahamoot Dargo
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    People complained about having to fight through trash for their reclears/prog and those complaints led to the development removing trash mobs after Alexander.
    The problem with trash in FF14 is that you have a time limit to finish the duty. If you are progressing on a fight for multiple hours, it will be really frustrating to have to kill the same trash every hour and a half. If FF14 got rid of the time limit in pre-made groups they could maybe bring trash back.
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    Thea Sitori
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    Coil Turn 3 was annoying because you had to clear that mob turn every week, meanwhile you and your party want to get to Turn 5 to keep progging, and here we are spending valuable raid time on trash.

    We didn't have cooldown reset on-wipe back then too, so that's a lot of lost time for progression, not to mention you needed to use some serious cooldowns during Coil turn 10 trash mobs, that stuff hurt like a truck. They didn't even nerf the trash until it was unlocked.

    Several people here probably did not do Coil when it was a weekly lockout like savage, only worse. Like until Final Coil you could only clear a floor once for the week, and you could not re-enter the fight until the following week on your toon. They didn't start the idea of having 0-1 chests until Turn 10 and beyond.


    Quote Originally Posted by Impulsikk View Post
    The problem with trash in FF14 is that you have a time limit to finish the duty. If you are progressing on a fight for multiple hours, it will be really frustrating to have to kill the same trash every hour and a half. If FF14 got rid of the time limit in pre-made groups they could maybe bring trash back.
    YoshiP mentioned he likes the clock for several reasons but one of which was so everyone could realize they probably should take a break, or disband.
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    Last edited by technole; 01-25-2022 at 05:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    YoshiP mentioned he likes the clock for several reasons but one of which was so everyone could realize they probably should take a break, or disband.
    He ain't wrong, either.

    When my static failed to get through P2S and I really wanted to get in a clear that week, I spent honestly way too much time in PF throwing myself at that fight in enrage/clear parties (or even like, "second channeled prog" parties) determined to get a clear in the last day or so before reset. And when we ran down the clock on an instance, that was when folks were like "okay, I need to take a smoke break/hit the restroom/get up and stretch/actually remember to eat".
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