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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    The problem with adding difficulty back into fights like Thordan or Shinryu is that people will drop them if they get them in roulettes.

    I'm not opposed to making them harder, I'd quite like it to be honest, but they'd need a boost in rewards to stop the people wanting a quick 5 min trials roulette from bailing immediately.

    Boost the difficulty of the hypest story trials, then boost the tomes and XP rewards alongside them. Win/win.
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    Wolwosh's Avatar
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    Ulorin Ardor
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I did notice a change on E7N the one with Garuda and Ifrit, and they merge into Ratkapaksa.
    There is this mechanic that you have to share with someone, otherwise you get shot up in the air and it would always kill you if you didn't, even as Tanks.
    You can survive it alone now because my sprouts kept running away with it and surviving.
    I thought that was quite lame..
    Its not current anymore ik, but it makes people not learn mechanics if you can just survive it doing it wrong..
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    Last edited by Wolwosh; 01-22-2022 at 09:04 PM.

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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    The problem with adding difficulty back into fights like Thordan or Shinryu is that people will drop them if they get them in roulettes.

    I'm not opposed to making them harder, I'd quite like it to be honest, but they'd need a boost in rewards to stop the people wanting a quick 5 min trials roulette from bailing immediately.

    Boost the difficulty of the hypest story trials, then boost the tomes and XP rewards alongside them. Win/win.
    This. I still remember back early in the expansion where quite a few people would AFK until they got vote dismissed if they got Shinryu. Kinda sad really.

    Personally, I don't think they need to boost the difficulty as much as they just need a stricter iLv cap on it. No reason we should be able to out gear the fight by 120iLv. At least maintain the integrity of what those trials were built up to be.
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    Melorie Valliere
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    White Mage Lv 81
    I tend to agree. I don't see how a new player experience can be very appealing, especially if they have played other mmos. It's dreadful when you think about trials, which usually are a history-climax... Thordan is basically a bunch of glorified animations, the fight barely exists anymore.

    Also, it doesn't really help that they keep doing expert dungeons easier than leveling dungeons as well, so I don't think that even expert roulettes help in that regard.
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    Novia Marius
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    It's dreadful when you think about trials, which usually are a history-climax... Thordan is basically a bunch of glorified animations, the fight barely exists anymore.
    At no point in this game's life did Thordan normal have any teeth lol
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    Melorie Valliere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    At no point in this game's life did Thordan normal have any teeth lol
    This isn't a discussion if something was hard or not though? The discussion is that things are becoming punching bags to a point that it's ridiculous with the power creep. It might be ridiculous back then, but now it is even more.
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